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Old 03-29-2005, 02:23 PM   #78
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Re: Musgrave.

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin
I watched the tapes on some of hte NFL Network stuff about how we threw short on 3 and longs. It appeared to me that on several occasions there were open receivers beyond the marker, but Ramsey threw short. Maybe the open WR's ran the wrong route causing them not to be where PR expected them, maybe PR was feeling pressured, maybe PR just didn't see'em, or maybe he was still trying to get comfortable in a truly pro style offense after a college of shotgun and 2 years of Spurrier. Again, I don't think everyone of those 3rd and long passes was intended to go short. As I recall his offense, Gibbs ran hard and then played the intermediate passing game with an occassional bomb to keep the D honest. As for runs on third and long, every team does it on occasion, and it often works if the passing game is hitting.

Can I hear an "OH YEAH" for a Joe Washington draw play??

I saw that segment on the NFL network and it looked to me like they were really trying to make Ramsey the scapgoat, when they showed the replay I didn't see anyone open and that was the first thing I said was where did they want him to throw it? The other recievers were running short routes as well and they were running them right into the defenders, the fact was Ramsey took a 3 step drop and fired the ball as if that was what the play was designed to do, my feeling on those highlights were that Gibbs had him throwing to the primary reciever no matter what, he didn't want him holding the ball, I believe Gibbs believed that if he hit the reciever quick and short he would be able to run for a first. The problem with the philosophy was he never stretched the defense all year to make them fear the deep play to give the recievers room to work underneath, all the defenses all year flooded the short passing game which is another reason we couldn't run, to many players around the line of scrimmage. The fact is we saw the same kind of routes and problems with Brunell. I didn't want Brunell here in the first place but he played a heck of a lot worse than even I expected, I don't believe it was totally his fault, I believe Gibbs has to absorb a most of the blame, as Portis said it's like the defenses know what we are running, couple that with Coles's complaints about not throwing the ball downfield and I say we have a Gibbs problem not a Ramsey problem!
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