Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made?

[MTK]

It's inevitable that the switch will be made at some point this year, unless of course the team gets incredibly hot and makes a serious playoff push.

But let's talk reality here, even though it happened last year and I'm still holding out hope, I don't think we're going to see another miracle turnaround. We've got too many problems on both sides of the ball to all of a sudden hit the switch.

So the question is, when will we see Campbell? I think alot of us are thinking if they lose to the Colts on Sunday, with a 2-5 record and a bye week to give them extra time to get him ready the Nov. 5th game against Dallas would be the perfect time to plug him in.

I say it's not gonna happen.

With two division games against Dallas and Philly on the other side of the bye and the fact that the Skins would still be technically alive in the playoff race, I honestly don't see Campbell starting until the playoffs are all but out of reach and that won't be until the Skins hit 7 losses.

Starting Campbell is going to be a strong signal that the season is over. I don't think Gibbs is afraid to make a QB change, but I do think he is hesitant to raise the white flag until he absolutely has to.

Take it for what it is, but this is just my little warning to not slit your wrists when you see Brunell starting after the bye regardless of what happens against Indy.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Take it for what it is, but this is just my little warning to not slit your wrists when you see Brunell starting after the bye regardless of what happens against Indy.

From what Gibbs has been saying this week, that scenario seems the most likely, unless Brunell pulls a Rex Grossman, or gets his leg broken. What Gibbs apparently can't see though, is the fact that the season is over if Brunell continues to play the way he has all season.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's inevitable that the switch will be made at some point this year, unless of course the team gets incredibly hot and makes a serious playoff push.

But let's talk reality here, even though it happened last year and I'm still holding out hope, I don't think we're going to see another miracle turnaround. We've got too many problems on both sides of the ball to all of a sudden hit the switch.

So the question is, when will we see Campbell? I think alot of us are thinking if they lose to the Colts on Sunday, with a 2-5 record and a bye week to give them extra time to get him ready the Nov. 5th game against Dallas would be the perfect time to plug him in.

I say it's not gonna happen.

With two division games against Dallas and Philly on the other side of the bye and the fact that the Skins would still be technically alive in the playoff race, I honestly don't see Campbell starting until the playoffs are all but out of reach and that won't be until the Skins hit 7 losses.

Starting Campbell is going to be a strong signal that the season is over. I don't think Gibbs is afraid to make a QB change, but I do think he is hesitant to raise the white flag until he absolutely has to.

Take it for what it is, but this is just my little warning to not slit your wrists when you see Brunell starting after the bye regardless of what happens against Indy.

I agree, JC is not going to start afte the bye no matter what happens this week. I dont think JC will start this season at all. For whatever reason Gibbs is loyal to MB and wont pull him unless he gets hurt. I will say there is a small chance JC could start in week 16 but I think those chances are minimal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree, JC is not going to start afte the bye no matter what happens this week. I dont think JC will start this season at all. For whatever reason Gibbs is loyal to MB and wont pull him unless he gets hurt. I will say there is a small chance JC could start in week 16 but I think those chances are minimal.

I don't agree.

If the Skins hit 7 losses the playoffs would be out of reach in all likelihood. It would make absolutely no sense to keep playing Brunell at that point. Gibbs isn't dumb, at that point he would know that it's time to begin the Campbell era. Besides, the fans would boo Brunell out of the stadium at that point.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't agree.

If the Skins hit 7 losses the playoffs would be out of reach in all likelihood. It would make absolutely no sense to keep playing Brunell at that point. Gibbs isn't dumb, at that point he would know that it's time to begin the Campbell era. Besides, the fans would boo Brunell out of the stadium at that point.

I agree Gibbs isnt dumb. I also know Gibbs wont play JC just to get him time. He will only play JC if he thinks can succeed and wont get killed. Right now I'm not sure Gibbs thinks that JC can do it.

[LadyT]

The switch can't come soon enough for me.

Here's my worst nightmare: Somehow, we pull off a win this week. in doing so, Brunell buys himself more time. But, ultimately we lose more key games and the season goes down the tubes anyway. But, it happens too late for Gibbs to consider any QB change, so we are stuck with MB for another 10 games.

Everyone says starting Campbell means giving up on the season. I don't necessarily buy that theory. I feel he can't possibly be any more inept than Brunell. I'd rather have a QB who possibly throws more INTs, yet revitalizes our sick passing game, as opposed to a QB who rarely throws INTs because he doesn't attempt much beyond 10 yards. This offense needs a major spark and a QB change could be that spark.

Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.

[vaoutlaws2006]

Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.[/quote]


i couldnt have said it better.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by LadyT

The switch can't come soon enough for me.

Here's my worst nightmare: Somehow, we pull off a win this week. in doing so, Brunell buys himself more time. But, ultimately we lose more key games and the season goes down the tubes anyway. But, it happens too late for Gibbs to consider any QB change, so we are stuck with MB for another 10 games.

Everyone says starting Campbell means giving up on the season. I don't necessarily buy that theory. I feel he can't possibly be any more inept than Brunell. I'd rather have a QB who possibly throws more INTs, yet revitalizes our sick passing game, as opposed to a QB who rarely throws INTs because he doesn't attempt much beyond 10 yards. This offense needs a major spark and a QB change could be that spark.

Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.

Plus, many feel that anything short of the playoffs this year is a failed season. Regardless of our optimism, I doubt there are many here who would be willing to bet we'll make the playoffs this season. Giving Jason Campbell some opportunities before season's end will enhance his readiness for the coming season providing their plan is to have him ready to be the starter next season. Also, the sooner we get to look at Jason under game conditions, the better we'll be able to determine if he is actually capable of being able to lead this team starting next season, or if we would have to consider looking even further perhaps for a veteran QB. So, the sooner we find these things out the better off we'll be in terms of making any further decisions as to which way to proceed. I feel it's imperative we test his state of readiness "now" so the team can begin to rally around him while we still have our core group of offensive player locked into long term contracts and they can all grow together.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by LadyT

The switch can't come soon enough for me.

Here's my worst nightmare: Somehow, we pull off a win this week. in doing so, Brunell buys himself more time. But, ultimately we lose more key games and the season goes down the tubes anyway. But, it happens too late for Gibbs to consider any QB change, so we are stuck with MB for another 10 games.

Everyone says starting Campbell means giving up on the season. I don't necessarily buy that theory. I feel he can't possibly be any more inept than Brunell. I'd rather have a QB who possibly throws more INTs, yet revitalizes our sick passing game, as opposed to a QB who rarely throws INTs because he doesn't attempt much beyond 10 yards. This offense needs a major spark and a QB change could be that spark.

Starting Campbell isn't giving up on the season. Sticking with Brunell is.

Couldn't agree more!

At the very least Campbell would recieve much needed experience in the NFL to help in his developement, I seriously doubt he's learning anything productive by watching Brunell play.

I hate to see us lose this week but part of me is hoping for a debacle by Brunell to get rid of him once and for all.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I don't agree.

If the Skins hit 7 losses the playoffs would be out of reach in all likelihood. It would make absolutely no sense to keep playing Brunell at that point. Gibbs isn't dumb, at that point he would know that it's time to begin the Campbell era. Besides, the fans would boo Brunell out of the stadium at that point.

I think you may be on to something here because there was a chorus of boo's during sunday's game, and they're going to get worse if the QB play continues to be ugly. We all know Gibbs's loyalty to Brunell, but if things don't get better he's going to have to consider the change whether he wants to or not.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree, JC is not going to start afte the bye no matter what happens this week. I dont think JC will start this season at all. For whatever reason Gibbs is loyal to MB and wont pull him unless he gets hurt. I will say there is a small chance JC could start in week 16 but I think those chances are minimal.

Gibbs is loyal. He tries to take care of the people, that take care of him. More than that, he made the statement, "I try to put the team in the best position to win". At this point in time, MB is the best QB possibility on this team to win..........now. We lose to Indy, I want JC in. Gibbs won't let that happen until Archimedes pronounces us dead. I'm ok with that, evaluate, and execute for next season.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Hog1

More than that, he made the statement, "I try to put the team in the best position to win". At this point in time, MB is the best QB possibility on this team to win..........now.

gotta love hearing that. "win now". since we've been doing so much of that.

here's a question, what do you think our record would be had we practiced and started Campbell this season? while i'm sure our INT count would be higher, i think our TD count would be higher as well...

oh, that said, i agree with Matty. Gibbs wouldn't sit Brunell until he had to by injury, or had to by defeat and front office pressure (8 losses). sigh.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by illdefined

gotta love hearing that. "win now". since we've been doing so much of that.

here's a question, what do you think our record would be had we practiced and started Campbell this season? while i'm sure our INT count would be higher, i think our TD count would be higher as well...

oh, that said, i agree with Matty. Gibbs wouldn't sit Brunell until he had to by injury, or had to by defeat and front office pressure (8 losses). sigh.

In preseason CJ threw 0 TD's and 2int's so I don't know if the TD's would be up.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by firstdown

In preseason CJ threw 0 TD's and 2int's so I don't know if the TD's would be up.

Wasn't that Brunell's (who was working with the #1 offense) stat line as well?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by illdefined

gotta love hearing that. "win now". since we've been doing so much of that.

here's a question, what do you think our record would be had we practiced and started Campbell this season? while i'm sure our INT count would be higher, i think our TD count would be higher as well...

oh, that said, i agree with Matty. Gibbs wouldn't sit Brunell until he had to by injury, or had to by defeat and front office pressure (8 losses). sigh.

It is a rare Rook that has other than catastrophic first years with 2+ints, a fumble or two thrown in for enterainment per game, sub 50% completion ratio. That coupled with a Defense that gets beaten like a rented mule, and an O that is ineffective, with no running game, doesn't sound like the keys to success. If anything else were working, and the QB were the only possible weak link, it would be different. That just is not the case. Bringing in JC in this environment is going to be rough on him. However, we get beat by Indy, I'm for the JC era to begin