Another Brandon Lloyd Thread

12thMan · 10-09-2007, 12:48 PM

I noticed almost immediately after Lloyd got his first reception, the crowd responded with a supportive cheer, and so did the sidelines.

I know it was just one catch, but maybe it's the beginning of him seeing more playing time, who knows. It's just good to see the team supporting him in that way.

It would be nice if he could contribute this Sunday. Maybe he should steal a page from Mike Seller's book and nag the hell out of Gibbs until he get's in the game.

724Skinsfan · 10-09-2007, 12:51 PM

I agree. I also noticed his second effort to get more yards. Seemed interested in playing his guts out.

BrudLee · 10-09-2007, 12:57 PM

A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward:

He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more.
He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook.
On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates.

What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing.

70Chip · 10-09-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward:

He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more.
He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook.
On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates.

What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing.

A nice, tidy post. I agree that Lloyd dove before they could hit him. He should have gained the first down on that one. But, that's how he rolls. He hates contact. McCardell fits in much better with his zone-beating prowess over the middle. I could see Keenan catching 30 to 35 balls the rest of the way.

Brandon will leave in the offseason, but I don't think the Redskins should be closed-minded about him. He has certain athletic qualities that make him unique and he may be of some usefullness at some point this year. Also, if injuries persist, they may not have a choice. I think that's what happened Sunday. I don't think he was going to play until Randle-El was hurt. He then had to go in on certain pakages because he's the only one left.

Crazyhorse1 · 10-10-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

A nice, tidy post. I agree that Lloyd dove before they could hit him. He should have gained the first down on that one. But, that's how he rolls. He hates contact. McCardell fits in much better with his zone-beating prowess over the middle. I could see Keenan catching 30 to 35 balls the rest of the way.

Brandon will leave in the offseason, but I don't think the Redskins should be closed-minded about him. He has certain athletic qualities that make him unique and he may be of some usefullness at some point this year. Also, if injuries persist, they may not have a choice. I think that's what happened Sunday. I don't think he was going to play until Randle-El was hurt. He then had to go in on certain pakages because he's the only one left.

I don't often see a quote and then a reaction to that quote both so wrong. Lloyd made a nifty initial move to get free of the first tackler and then picked up the maximum likely yards after that in a strong attempt to get a first down. He was no more trying to avoid contact on that play than he was dogging the effort to make the catch on that infamous interception.

He says he dogged it after the interception. Politics. My video says he had no real chance of making the tackle after the intercept and chased the play anyway.

CooleyAsCanBe · 10-10-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward:

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On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates.

Actually, if you read Lloyd's lips when he and Moss are celebrating the Rogers pick-six he says "he caught it, he caught it" sarcastically (9:50 mark in BJS highlights). Not sure if that makes him the pot or the kettle, but funny either way.

I agree we should try harder to get Lloyd the ball, if for no other reason than trying to get a better return on our investment. I want to see what happens when he's thrown to five or more times in a game.

freddyg12 · 10-10-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CooleyAsCanBe

[/list]Actually, if you read Lloyd's lips when he and Moss are celebrating the Rogers pick-six he says "he caught it, he caught it" sarcastically (9:50 mark in BJS highlights). Not sure if that makes him the pot or the kettle, but funny either way.

I agree we should try harder to get Lloyd the ball, if for no other reason than trying to get a better return on our investment. I want to see what happens when he's thrown to five or more times in a game.

That's why coaches make football decisions & GMs & owners make $ decisions. Throwing the ball to Loyd just because we paid him a lot doesn't help the team.

Recievers have to work to know their plays & routes, and then work to get open. As we saw in the Mia. game, throwing him the ball can have serious consequences.

Hog1 · 10-09-2007, 01:09 PM

If Lloyd would show ANY real sign of promise, he would play. I have noticed several players commenting, "nice to see Lloyd get some work", etc. If he could just learn to fight his guts out...........ehh 724?

RobH4413 · 10-09-2007, 01:12 PM

Someone told me he was on the Junkies the other day and was saying all the right things (again?). Saying he just wants to help the team while he's here, and if it means making catches, then he'll do it, if it means playing on the scout defense, then so be it.

I was told that after the interview they all were saying he was just a scapegoat and he just wasn't getting thrown the ball.

He's got to change his work ethic (from what I hear it's pathetic) if he wants any shot of staying on this squad.

Southpaw · 10-09-2007, 01:30 PM

I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season.

I think the Lloyd situation is similar to the Arrington situation, in that he's obviously more talented than the guys in front of him, but his attitude has him in the doghouse. I was one of the few that was very vocal in defense of Arrington, but I don't have the same feelings for B. Lloyd. IMO, you could at least see that Lavar was giving it his all when he was on the field. Lloyd on the other hand, gives little effort. During the Junkies interview, he actually admitted to loafing after the jump ball pick in the Dolphins game... That's bullshit. Talented or not, I'd leave his ass on the bench with that kind of attitude.

MTK · 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season.

I think that's it exactly.

Regarding the crowd reaction, I thought the crowd reacted in almost a surprised kind of way to his catch.

1 catch, 9 yards, and here we are talking about this bum yet again. I don't get it.

Sean Taylor · 10-10-2007, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think that's it exactly.

Regarding the crowd reaction, I thought the crowd reacted in almost a surprised kind of way to his catch.

1 catch, 9 yards, and here we are talking about this bum yet again. I don't get it.

He's on the team and I'd like to stay positive. It was a nice play on 2nd and 10 that helped us get a 1st down.

MTRedskinsFan · 10-10-2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season.

I think the Lloyd situation is similar to the Arrington situation, in that he's obviously more talented than the guys in front of him, but his attitude has him in the doghouse. I was one of the few that was very vocal in defense of Arrington, but I don't have the same feelings for B. Lloyd. IMO, you could at least see that Lavar was giving it his all when he was on the field. Lloyd on the other hand, gives little effort. During the Junkies interview, he actually admitted to loafing after the jump ball pick in the Dolphins game... That's bullshit. Talented or not, I'd leave his ass on the bench with that kind of attitude.

I knew the fucker put up a half-assed effort for that pass. If he didn't want to fight for the catch the least he could have done is fight like hell to keep his qb from an int. I wish we could trade Lloyd now, but it's gonna suck no matter what cause his trade value is in the toilet.

EternalEnigma21 · 10-09-2007, 01:11 PM

In light of our receiving situation and given his effort on the chance he was given most recently, I think we'll have to look his way again in more instances this season, but he's likely gone next year unless he really lights it up or something...

Just keep in mind McCardell has Double the catches for 4x the yards and he's been with the team for what... 2 weeks?

The Zimmermans · 10-09-2007, 01:11 PM

Lloyd obviously has a bad attitude in the locker room and does not respect saunders and gibbs.......none of this has to do with his talent.....he's not a prototypical CORE redskin, so he doesnt see the field. This has pluses and minuses...the plus is that it keeps all TEAM players on the field, and limits boneheaded penalties, and guarentee's 100% on every play from every player since they are concerned with the TEAM. Llloyd is out 2nd or 3rd most talented receiver...but he obviously has the worst attitude of all the receivers. That IS what separates dallas from washington.....character

10-09-2007, 12:48 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I noticed almost immediately after Lloyd got his first reception, the crowd responded with a supportive cheer, and so did the sidelines. I know it was just one catch, but maybe it's the beginning of him seeing more playing time, who knows. It's just good to see the team supporting him in that way. It would be nice if he could contribute this Sunday. Maybe he should steal a page from Mike Seller's book and nag the hell out of Gibbs until he get's in the game.

10-09-2007, 12:51 PM	#2
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I agree. I also noticed his second effort to get more yards. Seemed interested in playing his guts out. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-09-2007, 12:57 PM	#3
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread A few things I noticed at the game and watching it afterward: He seemed to go down without contact. I know he was going to get nailed, but he had a nine yard gain. We punted with gaining a first then. I believe the coaches would be disappointed if they thought he could have gotten more. He was the last receiver to enter the game. McCardell and Caldwell both played before he did, and they don't have a year with this playbook. On the other hand, when Rogers got his pick, the cameras showed Lloyd cheering him with other players. He doesn't seem to be a paraih with his teammates. What does all this mean? Not a great deal. I'm just practicing my typing. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

10-09-2007, 01:09 PM	#8
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread If Lloyd would show ANY real sign of promise, he would play. I have noticed several players commenting, "nice to see Lloyd get some work", etc. If he could just learn to fight his guts out...........ehh 724? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-09-2007, 01:12 PM	#9
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 40 Posts: 2,638	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread Someone told me he was on the Junkies the other day and was saying all the right things (again?). Saying he just wants to help the team while he's here, and if it means making catches, then he'll do it, if it means playing on the scout defense, then so be it. I was told that after the interview they all were saying he was just a scapegoat and he just wasn't getting thrown the ball. He's got to change his work ethic (from what I hear it's pathetic) if he wants any shot of staying on this squad. __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-09-2007, 01:30 PM	#10
Southpaw The Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: So. MD Age: 47 Posts: 1,319	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread I heard the Junkies interview and he was basically singing the company line. Either he wants to make nice in Washington, or he's trying to put on a good face for other teams when they cut him loose next season. I think the Lloyd situation is similar to the Arrington situation, in that he's obviously more talented than the guys in front of him, but his attitude has him in the doghouse. I was one of the few that was very vocal in defense of Arrington, but I don't have the same feelings for B. Lloyd. IMO, you could at least see that Lavar was giving it his all when he was on the field. Lloyd on the other hand, gives little effort. During the Junkies interview, he actually admitted to loafing after the jump ball pick in the Dolphins game... That's bullshit. Talented or not, I'd leave his ass on the bench with that kind of attitude.

10-09-2007, 01:11 PM	#14
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 45 Posts: 2,958	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread In light of our receiving situation and given his effort on the chance he was given most recently, I think we'll have to look his way again in more instances this season, but he's likely gone next year unless he really lights it up or something... Just keep in mind McCardell has Double the catches for 4x the yards and he's been with the team for what... 2 weeks? __________________ I am the brute squad.

10-09-2007, 01:11 PM	#15
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: Another Brandon Lloyd Thread Lloyd obviously has a bad attitude in the locker room and does not respect saunders and gibbs.......none of this has to do with his talent.....he's not a prototypical CORE redskin, so he doesnt see the field. This has pluses and minuses...the plus is that it keeps all TEAM players on the field, and limits boneheaded penalties, and guarentee's 100% on every play from every player since they are concerned with the TEAM. Llloyd is out 2nd or 3rd most talented receiver...but he obviously has the worst attitude of all the receivers. That IS what separates dallas from washington.....character __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

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