NFL uncapped -- Good or bad in your eyes?

[Daseal]

Hey Guys,

As many of you know the owners are very well thinking about opting out of the current CBA. This will mean the NFL in either 2010 or 2011 will become uncapped. Upshaw has said, and it makes complete since from the NFL PA's perspective, that if the cap goes away it will never come back. I'm a little torn on this issue.

On one hand, trades will be possible in the NFL once again, and having multiple great players won't handcuff you because of their salary. The #1 pick in the draft again becomes an asset rather than a burden, and you can keep those players you love but just can't justify their salary against the cap right now.

On the other hand, it will kill parity in the league. Small market / cheap owners will put out a subpar product due to not having the cash or simply unwilling to spend it (right now teams must spend at least 85% of their cap), and it will crush the competitive balance. Teams like Washington, Dallas, New York, etc will be able to get anything and everything they want because of seemingly endless income, while small market teams like Green Bay and Buffalo really can't compete.

Where do you stand on the uncapped year? Good or bad for the NFL?

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

All this will do is make football end up like baseball, with the Cowboys and Redskins taking the part of the Yankees. On the other hand, maybe Dan Snyder will FINALLY be able to afford and pay all those players he wants. LOL

[MTK]

Bad. Very bad.

Horrible.

As you said it will kill the smaller market teams. I'd hate to see the NFL turn into MLB.

Personally I don't think we'll see it happen though. The NFL has done a great job at maintaining labor peace since 1987.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Bad. Very bad.

Horrible.

As you said it will kill the smaller market teams. I'd hate to see the NFL turn into MLB.

Personally I don't think we'll see it happen though. The NFL has done a great job at maintaining labor peace since 1987.

That's my whole gripe with it. We have the cap for that reason, so that a team with a hyper rich/obsessed owner can't go out and buy the damn league. I really hope this doesn't come to frutition because IMO, it cant mean ANYTHING but bad for the NFL.

Plus, MLB sucks. Hard.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

That's my whole gripe with it. We have the cap for that reason, so that a team with a hyper rich/obsessed owner can't go out and buy the damn league. I really hope this doesn't come to frutition because IMO, it cant mean ANYTHING but bad for the NFL.

Plus, MLB sucks. Hard.

Yes, indeed.

I want to punch someone in the face anytime I hear the words 'steroids' and 'baseball' these days. Enough already, please.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yes, indeed.

I want to punch someone in the face anytime I hear the words 'steroids' and 'baseball' these days. Enough already, please.

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Originally Posted by firstdown

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[killromo]

Bad for the laegue, good for the Skins. I'm against it though, I want Super Bowl rings the hard way. Parity is what makes the NFL great and baseball suck right now.

[Schneed10]

For the NFL overall I think it would be bad. In our little corner of the world though, in the NFC East, it would be fine. The Cowboys, Giants, Redskins, and Eagles are all large market teams and would be capable of competing with one another financially. The division would be a perennial powerhouse and constantly very competitive.

But the division could be a perennial powerhouse under a salary cap too. It's a horrible thing for the NFL overall, IMO.

[Vulta121]

Guys when it comes to the Skins I don't care about anything but us. I'm EXTREMELY greedy and I'm happy to admit it. I feel sick every time we lose and when we win I can't help but smile. I don't care about the Bills or Packers I care about the Skins. That being said if this does happen we are going to DOMINATE. Danny and the front office haven't exactly done the best job with getting the right players and the cap. But now it will come down to is he willing to spend the money? We all know what the answer to that is! So lets be the Yankees or Sox (2000 era) of the the NFL. I'm all for no cap.

[SkinsFanSince91]

This would be the end of football as America's most watched game.

The league will go back to having dynasties made by revenue and not solid GM moves and player/coach production.

There would not longer be any mystery behind who will make it to the dance or playoffs, because, as we saw before the salary cap in the NFL, there will be perennial playoff teams every year and the competition that has made the NFL so great the last few years will eventually dissipate.

Those who neglect their history are doomed to repeat it.

Someone put that on a t-shirt and send it to Goddell and Dan Snyder.

[Longtimefan]

It will be bad, very bad for football as we know it. It will destroy the competetive balance and small market venues will suffer. It will defeat the origional purpose of the cap implementation and will become a league where only the strong survive. Not Good...

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

It will be bad, very bad for football as we know it. It will destroy the competetive balance and small market venues will suffer. It will defeat the origional purpose of the cap implementation and will become a league where only the strong survive. Not Good...

I love that commercial! "The competetive balance is fair."

Well, if this happens, Denny Green wont be able to say that anymore. And that would make me sad. Green is a riot.

[Daseal]

Well, I know Jerry Jones has said he's opting out -- wouldn't be surprised if Snyder did too. They do have some gripes, they're sending their money to small market teams, etc.

Definitely be interesting to see how it plays out.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Well, I know Jerry Jones has said he's opting out -- wouldn't be surprised if Snyder did too. They do have some gripes, they're sending their money to small market teams, etc.

Definitely be interesting to see how it plays out.

I guess ultimately the question is should the owners consider themselves owners of their own companies competing against each other? Or should they consider themselves business partners working together for the NFL to compete with outside competitors.

By working together they've created tremendous value for each of their teams. According to Forbes, the Vikings were the least valuable team in the NFL in 2005. yet they were more valuable than the Knicks (the most valuable NBA team in 2005). The Detroit Pistons and Detroit Red Wings (for all their history and NBA titles and Stanley Cups) together are nowhere near as valuable as the Detroit Lions (with nothing). And the more valuable the smaller market teams are, it would seem logical that it only improves the value of the larger market teams.

On the other hand, because of salary caps you could make the argument that-while there is parity-the quality of the sport has declined. Instead of allowing players to develop and learn you're forced to throw people out there that aren't ready and are constantly turning rosters over.

I think what's important, more so than a salary cap, is that a salary floor is in place. You have to have money (a lot of it) to be an NFL owner so these guys aren't poor but it seems like some (Bidwill) don't invest as much as they could into their teams. In my opinion, if you want to be part of this exclusive club you need to invest more than just the initial capital to buy the team.