Campbell will now stay away from Redskins Park

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by pocket$ $traight

jc should. He is going to have a lot of time on his hands...

zing!!!

[DBUCHANON101]

McNabb to be traded... Oakland offers a high pick--i believe their first--, along with other teams including Washington willing to give up either their first or second plus other late picks to get him.
JC to be traded.. 2nd yr in a row this comes out and still no offers even close to what McNabb and Cutler were drawing. I know ppl love JC but its time to admit that he isnt a top 15 QB and there are reasons he hasnt been traded to a team desperately needing a QB. He is seeking his own trade which to me says the Skins will get a late pick -4th or later-if anything for him depending on how the draft goes for teams like Buffalo,Oakland etc.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

zing!!!

or better -

Bazinga!


Sheldon Remark: Note that Bazinga merely requires a single exclamation mark while zing needs three to accomplish the same task

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

McNabb to be traded... Oakland offers a high pick--i believe their first--, along with other teams including Washington willing to give up either their first or second plus other late picks to get him.
JC to be traded.. 2nd yr in a row this comes out and still no offers even close to what McNabb and Cutler were drawing. I know ppl love JC but its time to admit that he isnt a top 15 QB and there are reasons he hasnt been traded to a team desperately needing a QB. He is seeking his own trade which to me says the Skins will get a late pick -4th or later-if anything for him depending on how the draft goes for teams like Buffalo,Oakland etc.

I would argue that JC is a top 15 QB - he's 15th. Middle of the pack. The problem is that I don't see JC rising much higher than this.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Stan Humphries, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Brad Johnson... All these guys where given up on too early. It all started when Rypien took us all the way. With Stan Humphries as the back-up, i was hoping the reigns would be handed over to him, but Rypien screwed up, got fat in canada, and came back as a shadow of his former self, while Stan turned an 0-4 team into the first to go from 0-4 to 11-5 and into the playoffs. Rich Gannon wasn't given a fair chance. I STILL have no clue why we let go of Trent Green. he was part of one of the best offenses of the last decade as a chief. Brad Johnson went straight from the redskins to the superbowl, and for who... Toney Banks? Coach Killer Jeff George!?! Poor Ramsey was cursed with a HORRIBLE coach and no-oline. The poor kid never had a chance. Then there was teh chump who I will not name that we traded for Santana. The guy was just like T.O., made tons of catches, but only on 1st and 2nd down. He was the opposite of Art Monk, whenever we needed the first, he dropped passes by Ramsey, Brunnel, and Hasselbeck. He's better now and i almost wouldn't mind him back on the team... but I trust him as much as T.O. ... which isn't much.

I not only wish Jason the best elsewhere, with our track record, i expect it.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Stan Humphries, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Brad Johnson... All these guys where given up on too early. It all started when Rypien took us all the way. With Stan Humphries as the back-up, i was hoping the reigns would be handed over to him, but Rypien screwed up, got fat in canada, and came back as a shadow of his former self, while Stan turned an 0-4 team into the first to go from 0-4 to 11-5 and into the playoffs. Rich Gannon wasn't given a fair chance. I STILL have no clue why we let go of Trent Green. he was part of one of the best offenses of the last decade as a chief. Brad Johnson went straight from the redskins to the superbowl, and for who... Toney Banks? Coach Killer Jeff George!?! Poor Ramsey was cursed with a HORRIBLE coach and no-oline. The poor kid never had a chance. Then there was teh chump who I will not name that we traded for Santana. The guy was just like T.O., made tons of catches, but only on 1st and 2nd down. He was the opposite of Art Monk, whenever we needed the first, he dropped passes by Ramsey, Brunnel, and Hassembeck. He's better now and i almost wouldn't mind him back on the team... but I trust him as much as T.O. ... which isn't much.

I not only wish Jason the best elsewhere, with our track record, i expect it.

Brad Johnson went to a good offensive coach who was new to a team with a DOMINATING DEFENSE.. Didnt the Tampa D outscore the Oakland O in that one? if not they were close. And i agree,Ramsey had no chance.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I am not counting what Vinny did to him because I felt that was pretty bad but the current regime has done nothing to disrespect Jason. They have made a decision to move on and this decision should be understood and respected by the fans. Football is a business and this is a business decision (a good one if you ask me).

Jason had plenty of opportunity to distinguish himself and he never did it. The best thing for him and the team is to move on and that is what is happening here.

What were these opportunities? Sure he started for 3 and a half years but he had a different OC, arguably the worst OL in the league year after year and let's not forget, a FO managed by Vinny Cerrato...Look I'm happy DMac is here but let's not pile on Campbell. I for one will miss him b/c I look around the league and see douchebag quarterbacks like Jay Cutler etc.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Stan Humphries, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Brad Johnson... All these guys where given up on too early. It all started when Rypien took us all the way. With Stan Humphries as the back-up, i was hoping the reigns would be handed over to him, but Rypien screwed up, got fat in canada, and came back as a shadow of his former self, while Stan turned an 0-4 team into the first to go from 0-4 to 11-5 and into the playoffs. Rich Gannon wasn't given a fair chance. I STILL have no clue why we let go of Trent Green. he was part of one of the best offenses of the last decade as a chief. Brad Johnson went straight from the redskins to the superbowl, and for who... Toney Banks? Coach Killer Jeff George!?! Poor Ramsey was cursed with a HORRIBLE coach and no-oline. The poor kid never had a chance. Then there was teh chump who I will not name that we traded for Santana. The guy was just like T.O., made tons of catches, but only on 1st and 2nd down. He was the opposite of Art Monk, whenever we needed the first, he dropped passes by Ramsey, Brunnel, and Hasselbeck. He's better now and i almost wouldn't mind him back on the team... but I trust him as much as T.O. ... which isn't much.

I not only wish Jason the best elsewhere, with our track record, i expect it.

Bro you're funny ass hell. Trent Green left cause of the unstable ownership situation. I liked Brad Johnson but Marty didn't want him....so he got to play on a team w/ an all world defense. Many QB's could've played on that team. And Ramsey couldn't beat out Chad Pennington and has bounced around the NFL cause he's not good enough to be a 16 game starter. We've finally got a top NFL QB so no need to re hash the past.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

BTW, Brad Johnson was ranked 19 in the top QB category as a Redskin his last season. he was ranked 16 in tampa bay the next year as well as the year before he won the superbowl. Two ex-redskin QBs battled it out in the Super Bowl... Ugh...

I'm sorry if i'm raining on some people's parade. My dad, from whom I inherited my Skinz fan gene, is really happy about McNabb coming here. He feels bad that JC will likely go, but he's confident that we'll get more than most think he's worth in return. I'm just finding it hard to be as optimistic.

[MTK]

Let the past go, just let it go. It's a new era. Re-hashing the past is pointless.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bro you're funny ass hell. Trent Green left cause of the unstable ownership situation. I liked Brad Johnson but Marty didn't want him....so he got to play on a team w/ an all world defense. Many QB's could've played on that team. And Ramsey couldn't beat out Chad Pennington and has bounced around the NFL cause he's not good enough to be a 16 game starter. We've finally got a top NFL QB so no need to re hash the past.

I don't see what's so funny and i'm no re-hashing the past, we're just repeating it.

To say that any QB could've played on that team is to say that it's better to have a great team and good quarterback than a great quarterback and a good team... i agree. I just think that we should've KEPT our good QB and used our 1st and 2nd on getting the o-line that ANY QUARTERBACK can play behind. he has less of a chance than Ramsey

[MTK]

Past decisions and moves from previous eras have no effect on what's being done today.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Talk about no class. Everything about how this is being handled is wrong. Okay, so you decide that McNabb is the way to go. Fine. Plenty of argument fo rhim to be the better man. But hey, Jason didn't exaclty throw games and curse out players. He didn't cause any huge scandals or name names. Between Bruce and Mike, SOMEBODY should've had the the testicular fortitude to have a honest, man to man talk with Jason Campbell and tell him about McNabb. At least call him up and say, "Yo! We got your boy Donovan!"

No class at all in this organization. After the way he was treated, I wouldn't wanna be seen there either.

The reason he is not allowed to train there is because if he gets hurt then the Skins have to pay him while he is hurt.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The reason he is not allowed to train there is because if he gets hurt then the Skins have to pay him while he is hurt.

That and why have a guy on the field who you already know isnt a part of your plans. It would be a distraction that the team doesnt need.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What were these opportunities? Sure he started for 3 and a half years but he had a different OC, arguably the worst OL in the league year after year and let's not forget, a FO managed by Vinny Cerrato...Look I'm happy DMac is here but let's not pile on Campbell. I for one will miss him b/c I look around the league and see douchebag quarterbacks like Jay Cutler etc.

Even with all that JC went through he had his own issues which was the problem. If I had a dollar for evertime he missed a guy wide open or through the ball to the outside leading the WR out of bounds or through it way inside on a guy I could buy season tickets. If I had a dollar for every WR he stared down I could up grade the tickets to box seats. If I had a dollar for evrytime he held onto the ball not throwing it when he should I could buy a car to get me to the games. I could go on but you get the point. JC seems to be a hell of a guy but not a hell of a QB.