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Old 09-09-2019, 04:36 PM   #91
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The most ridiculous overreactions definitely come after week 1. Everyone either thinks their team is going 16-0 or 0-16.


No. We saw a chronic problem show itself yesterday that we’ve seen since the beginning of Gruden’s tenure. A complete second half collapse.

It tells us that Gruden and Gruden’s coaching hasn’t changed.


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Old 09-09-2019, 04:37 PM   #92
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As always, Keim is the voice of reason:

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There are 15 more games people. Pace yourselves.
I counted 7 wins before the season and I still see 7 wins. My hopes are not dashed.
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:40 PM   #93
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It's becoming cliché but the NFL is such a week to week league.
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:48 PM   #94
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We're not beating Dallas. They looked like a complete team yesterday. We looked like a team that has a lot of holes.

But what's inexcusable was the two bombs to Jackson. You simply can not let him get behind the defense, yet it happened TWICE. Then add in the 3rd and long conversations. Fair or not that reflects poorly on Manusky.

We need to do whatever it takes to get Greg Williams back in here. These guys on d just don't respond to these coaches. He gets instant results wherever he goes.
Is Dallas that good or are the Giants that bad?
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Old 09-09-2019, 04:50 PM   #95
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Is Dallas that good or are the Giants that bad?
Probably both. Plus it's just one game.
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Old 09-09-2019, 05:31 PM   #96
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It's becoming cliché but the NFL is such a week to week league.
I've been saying this for several years. Although, I've recently lost faith in Gruden (never much had it for Manusky), there is still a chance this team can compete every week and find their way in wild card discussion late in the season.

The talent, albeit young, is there. We might be in for a shootout on Sunday.
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Old 09-09-2019, 05:35 PM   #97
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Probably both. Plus it's just one game.
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Old 09-09-2019, 05:45 PM   #98
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Anyone notice another questionable coverage on one of Jeffrey's TD's? He had Bostic trying to cover him. Why? A LB on a wr can not be the correct coverage.
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Anyone notice another questionable coverage on one of Jeffrey's TD's? He had Bostic trying to cover him. Why? A LB on a wr can not be the correct coverage.
I believe Nicholson blew the coverage.
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Anyone notice another questionable coverage on one of Jeffrey's TD's? He had Bostic trying to cover him. Why? A LB on a wr can not be the correct coverage.
Was that man coverage though? Either way he was right there. If his hand was 2 inches lower that ball is batted away.
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It is hard to base anything on one week, but is it possible that the offense is actually going to have to carry this team to wins, rather than the other way around, as most expected?
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:52 PM   #102
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Anyone notice another questionable coverage on one of Jeffrey's TD's? He had Bostic trying to cover him. Why? A LB on a wr can not be the correct coverage.
Bostic was right there. If he gets his head around, then he likely knocks the ball down.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:50 AM   #103
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It is hard to base anything on one week, but is it possible that the offense is actually going to have to carry this team to wins, rather than the other way around, as most expected?


Even though the defense has talent, without Allen and with Greg Manusky’s coaching they are not going to be as good as many expected.

On the offensive side, our new WR are legit. They are going to be fun to watch. Unfortunately Case does not have the talent to get the ball to them every time they are open. That missed pass to a wide open McLaurin was a 7 point mistake, right when we desperately needed it.

This team needs new coaches and some OL talent to really improve. But we have some new rookies that are going to make some plays.


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Old 09-10-2019, 12:06 PM   #104
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Looking thru the grades from PFF on the first game

Well just highlight a couple things:

Landon Collins was terrible in coverage.

Jimmy Moreland, Matty I, Jon Bostic, Ryan Anderson were terrible in Run Defense. For Bostic that's especially terrible.

Tim Settle, Monty graded well. Payne and Norman solid.

The Interior Oline graded well. Flowers was solid.

Moses graded out terrible. Penn graded out as our best Run Blocking Olineman, but not good pass blocking.

Vernon Davis continues to give us nothing run blocking. Sprinkle graded well.

Terry McL graded well, highest grade on Offense. Guice graded second highest. Solid grades for Harmon and CT.
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:15 PM   #105
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The bad:
- Blown opportunity.
- Penalties. I swear I don't understand holding anymore.
- Not making plays to finish, close doesn't count. (pressures, coverage, tipped balls not intercepted, dropped balls when desperately needed, missed TDs )
- Running game. It went away.

The Good:
- Offense. Has a chance to make shit happen as they get to know each other.
- Recent draft picks. Scary Terry, Harmon, Holcomb, Quinn, Payne, Roullier. We just might have several really solid back end picks in the last couple of years.
- Team speed. The difference was noticeable
- Returns. Not a shit show for once. Actually looked like we might get a decent return now and then.

Overall. Game 1 against a really good team. Not good to give it away at all, but alot more to be happy about than I remember in recent years. Some shit looked flat good. I am going to reserve further judgement until week 8 when the league has developed its identity for the year.
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