Taylor Effing Heinicke

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Originally Posted by MTK

Hyperbole or are you being serious? Because Logan Thomas came out of nowhere here, McLaurin has become a legit #1 WR, Gibson made a nice transition from college WR to NFL RB, and McKissic has been extremely productive here, just to name a few.

TH is a nice story, he's definitely shown he belongs in the NFL, just not as a starter. His lack of arm strength and inaccuracy at times are proving to be significant limitations.

There are always going to be studs that just get it. There are others who need to be taught.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There are always going to be studs that just get it. There are others who need to be taught.

ok... Do you think TH is some sort of stud being held back right now?

All the teaching in the world isn't going to give him a better arm.

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Originally Posted by MTK

ok... Do you think TH is some sort of stud being held back right now?

All the teaching in the world isn't going to give him a better arm.

No I dont think he is a stud. Lol. Far from it. That was my point. Studs like McLaurin do not need the coaching like a guy like Heineke does. Guys like Heineke are why coaches are important. When i said “others” I didn’t mean other studs. I literally meant others that aren’t studs.

I also agree that Quarterback is the most important position. However on this current team with this current coaching staff a stud quarterback isn’t transforming us into contenders. We also need a new staff and several other pieces. What quarterback is over coming this defense-the worst in the league?

We need a quarterback- NO DOUBT- but we also need a staff, a handful of players on defense, and a halfway decent kicker if we are going to contend.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No I dont think he is a stud. Lol. Far from it. That was my point. Studs like McLaurin do not need the coaching like a guy like Heineke does. Guys like Heineke are why coaches are important. When i said “others” I didn’t mean other studs. I literally meant others that aren’t studs.

I also agree that Quarterback is the most important position. However on this current team with this current coaching staff a stud quarterback isn’t transforming us into contenders. We also need a new staff and several other pieces. What quarterback is over coming this defense-the worst in the league?

We need a quarterback- NO DOUBT- but we also need a staff, a handful of players on defense, and a halfway decent kicker if we are going to contend.

I'd like to see Turner w/ a stud QB. That is really the only way we can judge him.

Someone posted on You Tube the coaches tape of the Buffalo game. There were numerous guys running wide open and TH either missed them or did not throw them the ball. It is easy for everyone to call out Turner. But when I see that guys are in fact open and are not getting the ball then why are be bashing Turner? He is calling plays for a very limited QB. He probably called all those screens last week cause he knows he doesn't have a QB that can get the job done.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd like to see Turner w/ a stud QB. That is really the only way we can judge him.

Someone posted on You Tube the coaches tape of the Buffalo game. There were numerous guys running wide open and TH either missed them or did not throw them the ball. It is easy for everyone to call out Turner. But when I see that guys are in fact open and are not getting the ball then why are be bashing Turner? He is calling plays for a very limited QB. He probably called all those screens last week cause he knows he doesn't have a QB that can get the job done.

A stud quarterback will make any OC look decent. A stud OC will make any quarterback(offense) look decent.
Turner needs to tweek shit and cater to his personnel. How you ask? I have no fuckin idea but Turner needs to figure it out.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There are always going to be studs that just get it. There are others who need to be taught.

He is not a 16 game starter. It is as simple as that.