My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The team imploded last year due in large part to the fact that we had major weaknesses on the D-line.

Still, I have to say that the more I hear and see about Landry the less upset I'd be if we wind up taking him. But like Matty said, we'd still have to get help on the front four somewhere -- maybe Kris Jenkins or Ian Scott.

I do like the idea of guys like Terrell Owens, Jason Witten, and Plaxico Burress watching out for their heads going over the middle against a lineup like Taylor and Landry. Assuming Landry is everything people say about him, we would have one of the most feared secondaries in the league at that point.

Again, while I do feel we should address the defensive line, I was just wondering why you think we were effective in 2004 and 2005 with basically the same front four? If you think about it, really the only switch has been at LB. There has been the loss of Pierce, the shift of Marshall and each time the defense has gone down each year with basically the same personnel along the defensive line.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Again, while I do feel we should address the defensive line, I was just wondering why you think we were effective in 2004 and 2005 with basically the same front four? If you think about it, really the only switch has been at LB. There has been the loss of Pierce, the shift of Marshall and each time the defense has gone down each year with basically the same personnel along the defensive line.

I think the changes in the front seven from 2005 to 2006 IS what hurt us last year. While our pass rush from the front four was not good in 2005, we had a good run stopping line with Griiffen/Salavea at DT and Daniels/Wynn at DE. I still am not convinced that A. Carter is an everydown DE. He is a very small 265 pounds. The one game I attended, @ Texans, I was on the sidelines and Carter was getting pushed off the ball on a consistent basis. He could not hold his ground.
I do not care how many sacks he brings if he gives up ten yard runs several times a game. Our D-linemen have to stop the run first. If they can't they should not be on the field. I do not care how much we overpaid him, if he can't stop the run, get him out.
As much as I hate to admit it, I think we also missed Lavar Arrington or at least a Lavar type LB that could bring the hammer down and be very physical. Oher than LB Washington, we did not have another diffrence maker at LB last year.
Injuries to our other defensive players also played a big role in our bad year in 2006. If everyone is healthy, our talent at d-Line is not terrible to the point of crisis situation. there is a big investment in picking at # 6, lets not reach for need. I am not sure that another one dimensional pass rush end is the answer to all of our problems.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Again, while I do feel we should address the defensive line, I was just wondering why you think we were effective in 2004 and 2005 with basically the same front four? If you think about it, really the only switch has been at LB. There has been the loss of Pierce, the shift of Marshall and each time the defense has gone down each year with basically the same personnel along the defensive line.

Very simply, age and injuries caught up with them. When players are nearing the twilight of their careers, they can get old seemingly overnight.

In 2004 and 2005, guys like Griffin, Brandon Noble, and Philip Daniels were experienced veterans who were brought in for the “win now” philosophy. People forget that Joe Salave’a expected to be a back-up. They couldn’t have been looked upon to anchor the line for years to come. All along, the team should have planned for an infusion of youth – – but as we all know, this front office is exactly known for thinking for the future especially on defense.

Last year, father time caught up with them. Now, it looks like we may actually have to ask them to step up for another year to plug up the run.

But just to show that my mind isn’t completely closed, I think a good case has been made for drafting Landry. But they would still have to bring in someone to help out the front four.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Very simply, age and injuries caught up with them. When players are nearing the twilight of their careers, they can get old seemingly overnight.

In 2004 and 2005, guys like Griffin, Brandon Noble, and Philip Daniels were experienced veterans who were brought in for the “win now” philosophy. People forget that Joe Salave’a expected to be a back-up. They couldn’t have been looked upon to anchor the line for years to come. All along, the team should have planned for an infusion of youth – – but as we all know, this front office is exactly known for thinking for the future especially on defense.

Last year, father time caught up with them. Now, it looks like we may actually have to ask them to step up for another year to plug up the run.

But just to show that my mind isn’t completely closed, I think a good case has been made for drafting Landry. But they would still have to bring in someone to help out the front four.

While I definitely see your point that they're another year older and another year slower, reason just refuses to let me believe their play would decline THAT part in just one season. Unless there is a significant injury, I just feel like it's more of a gradual decline and not a total drop off. Again, let me reiterate by saying that Okoye is still my top choice. I just think with our middle held down by Fletcher this year, our run defense (even if we're stuck with the same guys in the middle) will be much improved.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

While I definitely see your point that they're another year older and another year slower, reason just refuses to let me believe their play would decline THAT part in just one season. Unless there is a significant injury, I just feel like it's more of a gradual decline and not a total drop off. Again, let me reiterate by saying that Okoye is still my top choice. I just think with our middle held down by Fletcher this year, our run defense (even if we're stuck with the same guys in the middle) will be much improved.

Well, I can only tell you what Charles Mann said on a Redskin postgame show last year. He said he got old in as short a time span as the flight from Washington to San Fransisco when he left to play for the 49ers in 1994. He said it can happen that quick.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Very simply, age and injuries caught up with them. When players are nearing the twilight of their careers, they can get old seemingly overnight.

In 2004 and 2005, guys like Griffin, Brandon Noble, and Philip Daniels were experienced veterans who were brought in for the “win now” philosophy. People forget that Joe Salave’a expected to be a back-up. They couldn’t have been looked upon to anchor the line for years to come. All along, the team should have planned for an infusion of youth – – but as we all know, this front office is exactly known for thinking for the future especially on defense.

Last year, father time caught up with them. Now, it looks like we may actually have to ask them to step up for another year to plug up the run.

But just to show that my mind isn’t completely closed, I think a good case has been made for drafting Landry. But they would still have to bring in someone to help out the front four.

this i how i feel right now the redskins will take landry with pick number 6 the guy is a monster ran a 4.35 can hit hard as hell great coverage he is a ballhawk perfect compliment to taylor and then witgh the fifth round pick ifeel they will take CJ Ah Oyu from oklahoma at de if anyone watched this guy in colege he could really be a sleeper pick

could someone please post up his scouting report and maybe dan bauzin from central michigan he can play both inside and outside he could be the next mark anderson who the bears got in the 5th round and produced 12 sacks we missed out on him and drafted anthony montgomery what the hell was that