Redskins ready to $pend?

[musicmaster45]

No okay so my Luck idea is in between let players play. if we win with Beck great if we don't than thats good too for draft positioin.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

No okay so my Luck idea is in between let players play. if we win with Beck great if we don't than thats good too for draft positioin.

I think thats what shanahan is thinking

[skinster]

Originally Posted by musicmaster45

No okay so my Luck idea is in between let players play. if we win with Beck great if we don't than thats good too for draft positioin.

Only responding to this because it seems there is alot of animosity towards my statements. I want to clarify by saying that I've never actually said we should lose on purpose (If you think this isn't true show me where I've said that to prove me wrong). I simply am saying I believe it is in the franchises's best interest for us to lose this year. If beck turns out to be the real deal, then great I'll be super happy. But I believe he's not, I believe we need a franchise qb, I believe Luck is our best bet at getting one, I believe this season is in vain, and I believe that as long as our season is in vain it is in our best interest to salvage a franchise qb in the process.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinster

Only responding to this because it seems there is alot of animosity towards my statements. I want to clarify by saying that I've never actually said we should lose on purpose (If you think this isn't true show me where I've said that to prove me wrong). I simply am saying I believe it is in the franchises's best interest for us to lose this year. If beck turns out to be the real deal, then great I'll be super happy. But I believe he's not, I believe we need a franchise qb, I believe Luck is our best bet at getting one, I believe this season is in vain, and I believe that as long as our season is in vain it is in our best interest to salvage a franchise qb in the process.

You're an idiot.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by skinster

Only responding to this because it seems there is alot of animosity towards my statements. I want to clarify by saying that I've never actually said we should lose on purpose (If you think this isn't true show me where I've said that to prove me wrong). I simply am saying I believe it is in the franchises's best interest for us to lose this year. If beck turns out to be the real deal, then great I'll be super happy. But I believe he's not, I believe we need a franchise qb, I believe Luck is our best bet at getting one, I believe this season is in vain, and I believe that as long as our season is in vain it is in our best interest to salvage a franchise qb in the process.

Wow, thats some major league double talk cake and eat it too stuff.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinster

Only responding to this because it seems there is alot of animosity towards my statements. I want to clarify by saying that I've never actually said we should lose on purpose (If you think this isn't true show me where I've said that to prove me wrong). I simply am saying I believe it is in the franchises's best interest for us to lose this year. If beck turns out to be the real deal, then great I'll be super happy. But I believe he's not, I believe we need a franchise qb, I believe Luck is our best bet at getting one, I believe this season is in vain, and I believe that as long as our season is in vain it is in our best interest to salvage a franchise qb in the process.

So you count yourself among the geniuses who can predict, without even knowing what our roster looks like, that this is a lost season. You also are in that elite mastermind group who thinks the the best interests of the team would be to LOSE with the hope that Luck comes out AND that we will be in position to draft him AND that he becomes a franchise QB AND that he lifts the franchise from the depths of hell that it currently resides.

How about this then, take a 7 month break from being a 'fan' and check back with us in January and regale us with more wisdom? Since this season is in vain, no point in wasting your genius on it anymore, right?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinster

Only responding to this because it seems there is alot of animosity towards my statements. I want to clarify by saying that I've never actually said we should lose on purpose (If you think this isn't true show me where I've said that to prove me wrong). I simply am saying I believe it is in the franchises's best interest for us to lose this year. If beck turns out to be the real deal, then great I'll be super happy. But I believe he's not, I believe we need a franchise qb, I believe Luck is our best bet at getting one, I believe this season is in vain, and I believe that as long as our season is in vain it is in our best interest to salvage a franchise qb in the process.

A) You are on a Redskins fan site explicitly hoping that the Redskins will lose and animosity arises. Logic would have predicted such a negative response.

B) As indicated before, your Suck for Luck "logic" only works if Luck is our ONLY bet, not if he is our BEST bet. "Best bet" opens the door to other options besides sucking.

[skinster]

Originally Posted by Lotus

A) You are on a Redskins fan site explicitly hoping that the Redskins will lose and animosity arises. Logic would have predicted such a negative response.

B) As indicated before, your Suck for Luck "logic" only works if Luck is our ONLY bet, not if he is our BEST bet. "Best bet" opens the door to other options besides sucking.

A) Yea I probably should have predicted it. But I'm entitled to my opinion, which I feel has enough merit that it shouldn't be dismissed as straight up wrong by anyone.

B) Wrong. Let me rephrase. Significantly our best bet. There are always options to get a franchise qb. You can hope that there will be another option that even has possibility of panning out, you can hope that next option will be available when we pick, you can hope that that the other option we draft pans out. That's just too much hope and luck (once again no pun intended) for me to be comfortable with. I like to go with what we know is tangible.

Also please stop using the word logic. Its really not even deniable that what I'm saying is true, that the higher the picks we have the better odds we have of getting what we need to become contenders. You really can't deny that the higher draft picks you have one year, the better odds you have at winning in the future.
And to clarify (because according to you, logic predicts this statement to be ripped apart), I'm not saying that fans should undoubtedly support this sentiment. I realize that most fans want to win in the here and now and root for a victory every game no matter what. They are completely entitled to feel that way, but I am not talking about supporting the sentiment that has been labeled "suck for luck." I'm simply stating the truth that higher draft picks yield higher odds of succeeding in the future. I'm going to add on that it is the undeniable truth that a franchise qb significantly improves your team (I'd say it is necessary to win a superbowl, but that is not undeniable truth). I'm also going to add that it is the undeniable truth that the higher you pick, the SIGNIFICANTLY better odds you have at landing a franchise qb.
Honestly if you deny any of those undeniable truths, you lose all credibility of football knowledge with me (unless you have hard statistics to back your claims up...I know I have many to back mine up, but if I'm overlooking something, be my guest to show me wrong).

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinster

A) Yea I probably should have predicted it. But I'm entitled to my opinion, which I feel has enough merit that it shouldn't be dismissed as straight up wrong by anyone.

B) Wrong. Let me rephrase. Significantly our best bet. There are always options to get a franchise qb. You can hope that there will be another option that even has possibility of panning out, you can hope that next option will be available when we pick, you can hope that that the other option we draft pans out. That's just too much hope and luck (once again no pun intended) for me to be comfortable with. I like to go with what we know is tangible.

Also please stop using the word logic. Its really not even deniable that what I'm saying is true, that the higher the picks we have the better odds we have of getting what we need to become contenders. You really can't deny that the higher draft picks you have one year, the better odds you have at winning in the future.
And to clarify (because according to you, logic predicts this statement to be ripped apart), I'm not saying that fans should undoubtedly support this sentiment. I realize that most fans want to win in the here and now and root for a victory every game no matter what. They are completely entitled to feel that way, but I am not talking about supporting the sentiment that has been labeled "suck for luck." I'm simply stating the truth that higher draft picks yield higher odds of succeeding in the future. I'm going to add on that it is the undeniable truth that a franchise qb significantly improves your team (I'd say it is necessary to win a superbowl, but that is not undeniable truth). I'm also going to add that it is the undeniable truth that the higher you pick, the SIGNIFICANTLY better odds you have at landing a franchise qb.
Honestly if you deny any of those undeniable truths, you lose all credibility of football knowledge with me (unless you have hard statistics to back your claims up...I know I have many to back mine up, but if I'm overlooking something, be my guest to show me wrong).

One might think it were easier to predict feedback on an opinion than franchise QBs

tell me why the worst teams always have high picks and the winning teams don't...

cuz of ONE magical pick that made the rest of the years' picks null/void?

[skinster]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

One might think it were easier to predict feedback on an opinion than franchise QBs

tell me why the worst teams always have high picks and the winning teams don't...

cuz of ONE magical pick that made the rest of the years' picks null/void?

Good thing I've got many scouts to predict luck in such high regard a year before he even comes out for me.
One pick doesn't magically change a franchise instantaneously (especially a qb). But those high picks build the foundation for the future and are the reason why the nfl is not like baseball where you know the red sox and yankees are going to be contenders every year. The nfl goes in cycles because over time the bad teams are bound to do well after getting high picks over and over. It's statistics and odds and just a matter of time.
Also, too many teams get the high picks at the wrong time, and end up reaching for a franchise qb, they want to see something in a guy that's not there, and that sets them back even further. This is the important year to get as high as possible with luck.
Also, many bad teams are bad teams because they are simply bad at drafting, even with improved odds at hitting well on high draft picks, some teams (i.e. detroit lions in millen era) just can't draft for shit no matter where they pick.