2011 NFL Free Agency Thread

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Haynesworth for Orton. Win-win for both teams.

No it isn't. I'd rather have Beck/Grossman than Orton.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No it isn't. I'd rather have Beck/Grossman than Orton.

You're tripping rainbows if you think that man. That's just crazy talk. I just hit the mute button on you until the first game of the preseason. Sorry...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by chewman

Are you serious?? Look at the numbers

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

You're tripping rainbows if you think that man. That's just crazy talk. I just hit the mute button on you until the first game of the preseason. Sorry...

You do realize Orton was BENCHED for TIM TEBOW??? TIM FREAKING TEBOW!!! He also was benched in favor or Rex Grossman back when he was on the Bears.


Yeah, I'll take Rex/Beck over Orton.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You do realize Orton was BENCHED for TIM TEBOW??? TIM FREAKING TEBOW!!! He also was benched in favor or Rex Grossman back when he was on the Bears.


Yeah, I'll take Rex/Beck over Orton.

1. But the Broncos were stupid enough to draft him that high, they have to make him the starting quarterback to they will catch a sh!t storm.

2. Kyle was benched because he was 22 years old, new to the NFL and still learning. Rex had already been in the league.

3. Stats - Kyle Orton - Age 28
SEASON - TEAM - GP -- CMP --- ATT --- CMP% ----- YDS ---- AVG --- TD - LNG - INT - FUM -- RAT
2005 ------ CHI -- 15 -- 190 --- 368 ----- 51.6 ----- 1,869 --- 5.08 ---- 9 -- 54 --- 13 --- 6 ---- 59.7

2007 ----- CHI --- 3 --- 43 ----- 80 ----- 53.8 ------- 478 ---- 5.98 ---- 3 -- 55 ---- 2 --- 1 ---- 73.9

2008 ----- CHI -- 15 -- 272 --- 465 ----- 58.5 ------ 2,972 --- 6.39 --- 18 - 65 ---- 12 -- 3 ---- 79.6

2009 ----- DEN -- 16 - 336 --- 541 ------ 62.1 ----- 3,802 --- 7.03 --- 21 - 87 --- 12 --- 3 ---- 86.8

2010 ----- DEN -- 13 - 293 --- 498 ----- 58.8 ------ 3,653 --- 7.34 --- 20 - 71 ---- 9 ---- 1 ---- 87.5

Career ---------- 62 - 1134 - 1,952 ---- 58.1 ----- 12,774 --- 6.54 -- 71 - 87 --- 48 --- 14 -- 79.6


Rex Grossman - Age 30
SEASON - TEAM - GP -- CMP --- ATT --- CMP% ----- YDS ---- AVG --- TD - LNG - INT - FUM -- RAT
2003 ------ CHI -- 3 ---- 38 ----- 72 ----- 52.8 ------- 437 ---- 6.07 ---- 2 -- 59 ---- 1 --- 1 ---- 74.8

2004 ------ CHI -- 3 ---- 47 ----- 84 ----- 56.0 ------- 607 ---- 7.23 ---- 1 -- 40 ---- 3 --- 2 ---- 67.9

2005 ------ CHI -- 2 ---- 20 ----- 39 ----- 51.3 ------- 259 ---- 6.64 ---- 1 -- 54 ---- 2 --- 0 ---- 59.7

2006 ------ CHI - 16 --- 262 ---- 480 ---- 54.6 ----- 3,193 --- 6.65 ---- 23 - 62 --- 20 --- 5 ---- 73.9

2007 ------ CHI -- 8 --- 122 ---- 225 ---- 54.2 ----- 1,411 --- 6.27 ---- 4 -- 59 ---- 7 --- 4 ---- 66.4

2008 ------ CHI -- 4 --- 32 ----- 62 ----- 51.6 ------- 257 ---- 4.15 ---- 2 -- 29 ---- 2 --- 0 ---- 59.7

2009 ------ HOU - 1 ----- 3 ------ 9 ----- 33.3 -------- 33 ---- 3.67 ---- 0 -- 21 ---- 1 --- 0 ---- 5.6

2010 ------ WSH - 4 ---- 74----- 133 ---- 55.6 ------- 884 --- 6.65 ---- 7 - 64 ---- 4 ---- 4 ---- 81.2

Career ----------- 41 --- 598 -- 1,104 --- 54.2 ------- 7,081 --- 6.41 --- 40 -- 64 -- 40 -- 16 ---- 70.9




Man, guess I was wrong, Grossman is just so much better than Orton. Mute.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

1. But the Broncos were stupid enough to draft him that high, they have to make him the starting quarterback to they will catch a sh!t storm.

2. Kyle was benched because he was 22 years old, new to the NFL and still learning. Rex had already been in the league.

Man, guess I was wrong, Grossman is just so much better than Orton. Mute.

I can post you McNabb's numbers compared to both of them and would you want McNabb in this offense? Not sure why you even posted the numbers, I never said statistically that Orton wasn't a better QB. In OUR offense, I'd rather have Rex/Beck (who knows the system) than to waste draft picks for yet another QB who'll have to come in and learn the system and potentially be a flop.


Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results.

How about this. We KEEP our draft picks, roll with Rex/Beck and draft and groom our own QB. You know, most good teams do that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results.

Oh Yeah? Well, even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then and The Hogs played for the Washington Redskins. Did you ever think of that?

That's why I think we should make yet another trade for a QB. The problem with the McNabb trade was that we didn't give up enough high draft picks for him to be any good. The same was true for Jason Campbell. We should give up our #1 and #2 picks for Orton to ensure that he'll do well here.