Super Bowl Gameday Thread

[MTK]

I'm kind of done with people trying to discredit Brady, or try to explain away his success. His accomplishments are just crazy. His postseason accomplishments are going to be nearly impossible to match.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm kind of done with people trying to discredit Brady, or try to explain away his success. His accomplishments are just crazy. His postseason accomplishments are going to be nearly impossible to match.

It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments

Mobility doesn't equal athleticism and vice versa.

Just because Brady doesn't scramble doesn't mean he's not athletic. He's in better shape than nearly ANYONE in the NFL. He takes care of his body like no one else, and his arm isn't showing any signs of getting weaker at his age.

You cant do what he's done even in a single season without being a great athlete.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Mobility doesn't equal athleticism and vice versa.



Just because Brady doesn't scramble doesn't mean he's not athletic. He's in better shape than nearly ANYONE in the NFL. He takes care of his body like no one else, and his arm isn't showing any signs of getting weaker at his age.



You cant do what he's done even in a single season without being a great athlete.

You cant even have a cup of coffee in the NFL without being a great athlete. You dont go to Michigan without being a great athlete. Its what im saying about Tim Duncan. He wasn’t Air Jordan, but it isn’t his style. He was clutch, calm, confident, precise, efficient as fuck, and always knew what to do and where to go. His brain was a sexy athlete and his body was a machine. Same as Brady.

[skinsfan69]

It's funny how we all sit around and talk about how we need Watson or Stafford. No we don't. Brady just won another SB throwing dump offs to.his backs and te's. Think about that. Every single pass Brady made on Sun Heinike can make.

I watched this team win 3 SB's with 3 non HOF qb's. Yeah different era but the same stuff wins decades later. Wr's do not win SB's so why spend big money on one? Once we got a competent QB all of a sudden Cam Sims became a better wr.

If you can't stop the other team from running it and you can't protect your own QB then game over. TB ran it down our throats so that means we aren't good enough in that area.

So IMO go out and get a Devin White in the draft. Go get some more blockers so we can run it better. DO NOT over spend on a wr.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

It's because he's not the "Sexy athlete" like a Mahomes is or Favre was etc. Yeah he's slow as shit and un-athletic but he's a winner and CLUTCH. Things you can not teach. I've said he's the GOAT since Ring 5 and he just keeps on winning. Nobody will ever touch his accomplishments

So clutch that in the last 3 drives against GB (not the last one as that was kneeling) he threw 3 interceptions. Brady didn't win that game the Tampa defense did. Same with the superbowl. Brady did NOTHING special. Missed some open WR's. Threw high quite a few times, but his WR's went up and got it. Was Brady the biggest reason the Bucs won? NO!! The Tampa defense was and the fact that KC was missing their 2 starting tackles.

Superbowl victories are not QB accomplishments, they are team accomplishments.

[MTK]

The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by MTK

The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.

I agree with this as well. Much easier with a top tier QB for sure.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

The top QBs will give you a chance year in and year out. You might luck into getting to the SB with 2nd or 3rd tier guy once in a while, but if you want sustained success you need the stud QB. Brady hasn't been to 10 Super Bowls dinking and dunking. We should exhaust all possible avenues before we settle for Heinicke.

Fans who don't want to go all in on a QB, IMO, are undermining the young talent this team has. You bring an elite QB like Watson to this team, we are a playoff contender right away, and can be a SB contender within two years.

I don't think our team is bad enough (knock on wood) to have a top 5 pick in the next 3 years, which is what you need to have a sure fire top rookie QB. As I've said, I'm fine parting with the 2021, 2022, and 2023 first round picks to get Watson.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Fans who don't want to go all in on a QB, IMO, are undermining the young talent this team has. You bring an elite QB like Watson to this team, we are a playoff contender right away, and can be a SB contender within two years.

I don't think our team is bad enough (knock on wood) to have a top 5 pick in the next 3 years, which is what you need to have a sure fire top rookie QB. As I've said, I'm fine parting with the 2021, 2022, and 2023 first round picks to get Watson.

Questions for you ..aside from QB position how does the WFT stack up against the Chiefs? I’m trying to figure out is the WFT really one player away from a super bowl and I just don’t believe it. Do I believe We have the QB on the team now to take us there .. NO I do not however trading away three number ones and top players on this team will not make us better .. some guys say They would not trade Young for Watkins straight up .. would you trade Chase young for 3 number one picks and two solid starters? Patrick M is widely considered one of the top if not the top QB in the league and look what happened agianst Tampa .. a team we could have beaten ...gonna be interesting to see how this plays out ..

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Questions for you ..aside from QB position how does the WFT stack up against the Chiefs? I’m trying to figure out is the WFT really one player away from a super bowl and I just don’t believe it. Do I believe We have the QB on the team now to take us there .. NO I do not however trading away three number ones and top players on this team will not make us better .. some guys say They would not trade Young for Watkins straight up .. would you trade Chase young for 3 number one picks and two solid starters? Patrick M is widely considered one of the top if not the top QB in the league and look what happened agianst Tampa .. a team we could have beaten ...gonna be interesting to see how this plays out ..

I think in a way you are answering your own question. On the one hand you are saying that we could have beaten Tampa, on the other hand you say that KC couldn't beat Tampa, even with an elite QB. So by that logic, wouldn't adding an elite QB to our team put us over the hump to be a playoff contender and beat a team like Tampa?

My working assumption for a Watson trade is what Bill Barnwell proposed: 19th and 74th overall picks in 2021, 2022 first- and fourth-round picks, 2023 first-round pick. With this offer, our defense should not change much, and we are going to be adding pieces on both offense and defense through free agency.

[BaltimoreSkins]

If you have a chance to draft what you think is a franchise QB or move up to do it then you have to do it. I would rather take that chance than settle for what we have. While I won't be disappointed if we fortify the LB position, there are lots of really good defensive players out there that can't carry their team to the playoffs. I would rather get the player that gets us to the playoffs almost every year,

[skinsfaninok]

Brady was in the top 5 in Deep passing yards

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Brady was in the top 5 in Deep passing yards

brady has 3 #1 WR's and 3 #1 TE's . . . plus a great running game and REALLY GREAT offensive line.

[BaltimoreSkins]

FWIW we are not close to the Chiefs. We are not one player away but it starts and ends with QB play IMO. Superior QB play will make the team better. We have already discussed Patrick's struggles against TB. From the craziness of moving three linemen to new positions the week leading up to the game. The lack of checking out of plays etc. He is 25 and still learning the position but will always have his team knocking on the playoff door if not at super bowl door year in and year out. A defensive player no matter how good, just as the Bears or Broncos, cannot do that. If Houston said Young for Watson straight up I would probably do it. We would still have a top ten defense but we would now have a top ten offense as well.