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Old 09-26-2022, 09:07 AM   #1
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Re: Ron Rivera

We are definitely going the wrong direction.

Rivera is a dinosaur, time to make his ass extinct in Washington. Unfortunately no way it happens until maybe the last game or 2 of the season, at earliest.
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Old 09-26-2022, 09:16 AM   #2
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Re: Ron Rivera

Rivera the GM absolutely failed Rivera the HC. And he isn't a good HC, so he needed all the help he could get.
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Rivera the GM absolutely failed Rivera the HC. And he isn't a good HC, so he needed all the help he could get.
That is probably where I have the biggest issue. He shouldn't be GN.
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Old 09-26-2022, 09:22 AM   #4
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That is probably where I have the biggest issue. He shouldn't be GN.
He should absolutely not be both. But I think that's always true. That is 2 separate jobs that should be done by 2 separate people.
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Rivera the GM absolutely failed Rivera the HC. And he isn't a good HC, so he needed all the help he could get.

100 percent. Well said SD.
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Old 09-26-2022, 10:09 AM   #6
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Re: Ron Rivera

I have no clue if canning him now, or in a 3 or 4 weeks, is a good option or not. But I have lost all faith I had in him.
I was the first to say how blatantly stupid it was to not address the LB position and CB depth... But even with that, this roster is too talented to be playing as bad as it is.
That's coaching. That's scheme. That's play calling. That's preparation. And yes, that is leadership (or lack of) and getting the guys to buy into (or don't) what they doing, believe (or don't) in this team's way of doing things, and getting fired up (or not giving a single F) about going to war together for this coach.

I don't really care wether it's now, in 3 weeks, or at the end of the season, cuz I don't have a better solution, I think this is a lost season already, but I will have a hard time withstanding another year of RR.

Year 3 was supposed to show improvement and we're regressing in every phase of the game.
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Old 09-26-2022, 10:30 AM   #7
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...he got this team on track when he got here after the Bruce Allen years.....and he has done as much as he can do....and maybe it's time for someone else to come in and pick up where Ron left off.....I've gotten to this point with Ron.
What you said here is nearly exactly how I fell about Ron. He's had so very much to overcome here that just being able to separate the football side from the rest of this toxic and inept organization has been a meaningful contribution to the team. That much needs to continue and be built upon by whomever leads the football side in the future.

Like you, I think Ron has done as much as he can because he and his coordinators clearly can't keep up with the modern brand of NFL football. So, to move forward from here, we need a coach who can thrive in the 21st Century NFL football environment.

The greatest inhibitor to this happening is, as we all know, the person at the top of this organization. I think that he is more likely to tear down what Ron has done rather than to hire a person who can move the work forward from this point.
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Old 09-26-2022, 11:10 AM   #8
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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
I'd rather have the league not like us for it, and have a chance to actually win games. Then continue to suck so we don't hurt some feelings outside of the team.
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I'd rather have the league not like us for it, and have a chance to actually win games. Then continue to suck so we don't hurt some feelings outside of the team.
Concur.
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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
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Old 09-26-2022, 11:41 AM   #12
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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
All of that is so true.
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Re: Ron Rivera

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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
I don't think there would be any fallout from his firing whatsoever or any price to be paid. A coach getting fired is routine business in the NFL. Just another day at the office. Some people say NFL coaches are hired to be fired.
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Re: Ron Rivera

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We're in the proverbial position of holding a tiger by the tail. Rivera's performance has been less than satisfactory, but firing him would be a grave mistake. He may not be considered a good coach, but he's a respected individual around the league. As pathetic as this organization is, Rivera's tenure has coincided with a particularly tumultuous series of events brought on by the owner. Rivera handled it with class and dignity, and much of this while he was going through cancer treatment. Firing him now or at the end of the season would go over like a lead balloon around the league. We're not going to win with this coaching staff in place, but the fallout from his firing would be too great a price to pay. Screwed if we do, screwed if we don't.
Don't have anything to add - just wanted to +1 everybody else. You should post more.
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Old 09-26-2022, 02:30 PM   #15
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Re: Ron Rivera

Who cares? As long as Danny runs the show, we'll continue to be an absolute fucking joke, year in and year out.

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