Taylor Effing Heinicke

[FrenchSkin]

He's earned the right not only to have a back up spot but to compete for the starting job IMO. Bring in a proven vet though, of course. I'd like a Mariota, Tyrod Taylor, or a Fitzpatrick, I'd like it to be a true QB competition. Of course if you can get a Watson or Stafford that's great but it'll be expensive.

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[mooby]

Definitely concerned with his durability, but at the least he's earned the right to compete in camp. Long term I'm not confident in his ability to stay healthy though, which is the #1 thing you need at this level. Think Brady said it best, the most valuable thing you can offer your team is being available. I don't mind that he plays balls out, but if playing balls out means he misses time often than it won't work out.

I still think Ron is going to go after someone this offseason.

[Ohioskins]

I can remember a time when we could have said, "F***** RG3". So I think we need to let the dust settle a bit. It was one game. RG3 played an entire year at a very high level. But once NFL D coordinators have had whole off season to review tape and plan, the next chapter may not be so bright.

Clearly Heineke has earned the right to be brought back to compete for No. 1 QB next year. But beyond that, I think we need to wait and see what happens.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

I can remember a time when we could have said, "F***** RG3". So I think we need to let the dust settle a bit. It was one game. RG3 played an entire year at a very high level. But once NFL D coordinators have had whole off season to review tape and plan, the next chapter may not be so bright.



Clearly Heineke has earned the right to be brought back to compete for No. 1 QB next year. But beyond that, I think we need to wait and see what happens.

Except RG-3 was 90 percent legs that made him electric. I think Heineken can actually stand back there and throw from the pocket if given protection.

[MTK]

Definitely wouldn't mention TH in the same breath as Brees but comparing him to Colt Brennan is just as dumb.

[FrenchSkin]

I understand the concerns about Heinicke's durability, and QB isn't a position you should feel certain after a game and a half anyway... But I'd be curious to see how he looks after a full offseason with access to an NFL facility. Remember he was in university in early December...

[Burgold]

The kid did a great job, and he should be invited to camp...to compete for the backup job, we still need a solid starter..and puleeeeeeeeeez stop with the Stafford talk...he's old we need someone younger for the long haul,I wouldn't mind a Sam Darnold or Mitch Travinski.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Burgold

The kid did a great job, and he should be invited to camp...to compete for the backup job, we still need a solid starter..and puleeeeeeeeeez stop with the Stafford talk...he's old we need someone younger for the long haul,I wouldn't mind a Sam Darnold or Mitch Travinski.

So he should not even be considered as a starter? That seems a little harsh.
Also I agree with Matty and Okie - Stafford is not old. He would put us in contention for winning a super bowl if we draft right and acquire a couple other key free agents.

[MTK]

Stafford is 32, hardly old by QB standards. He could easily have 5+ seasons left of high quality ball.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Stafford is 32, hardly old by QB standards. He could easily have 5+ seasons left of high quality ball.

Exactly and he's been damn good on a shitty team every yr.

Darnold and Mitch suck ass.. No thanks

[SkinsGuru]

Not bad for your only start of the year and only second since you graduated college in 2014 . . . (from PFF)

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

Not bad for your only start of the year and only second since you graduated college in 2014 . . . (from PFF)

Yeah pretty good for a possible backup.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yeah pretty good for a possible backup.

He was awesome but it's 1 game with no film to prepare for. I'm all for having him compete tho

[MTK]

I wouldn't even consider castoffs like Darnold or Trabisky, might as well go with Allen and Heinicke. Get a true QB1 in here along with a few more pieces on both sides of the ball and this team is ready to compete.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wouldn't even consider castoffs like Darnold or Trabisky, might as well go with Allen and Heinicke. Get a true QB1 in here along with a few more pieces on both sides of the ball and this team is ready to compete.

This is exactly where I am. I'm willing to give up a lot for the right player.
Including costs as a very important part of the equation, I think this is how I'd approach it:

1) Trade a ton for DeShaun Watson
2) Manage to acquire Dak Prescott, make him highest paid QB, trade picks if needed
[Grand Canyon]
3) Trade for Matt Stafford
4) Sign Ryan Fitzpatrick
5) Sign Matt Ryan if he becomes a free agent, not interested in trading unless it's for a day 3 pick
6) Sign Tyrod Taylor
[Grand Canyon]
7) Go into next year with the same QB room
[distance from Earth to the sun]
8) Bring back Haskins