Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!

[Dirtbag59]

All I ask is they find a way to bring in Dock and Willis and this will go in the books as one hell of a free agent weekend.

[Eknox]

Are we still going after Canty?

[freddyg12]

washingtonpost.com

this is a good & to me, obvious, assessment.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Are we still going after Canty?

Don't think so

[wilsowilso]

I think my post in the Peter King "Haynesworth to the Redskins" thread a few days ago sums things up for me.


http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post529092

[jamf]

Wow. We might as well sign manny ramirez too!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

washingtonpost.com

this is a good & to me, obvious, assessment.

Yup. I agree with you and this article.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Let's be real for a minute. There's downside to every deal. Every single one. There's always the potential issue of injuries, lack of production, and character flaws, and system knowledge at the professional level. So in my opinion, money is irrelevant to the extent that someone was going to sign him and benefit from his services anyway. So why not the Redskins. There's just a point, when it comes to a superstar athelete in his prime, some team will always be perceived as overpaying for this guy or that guy. What about the 49ers making a cornerback the highest paid player in NFL history last year? Since the Washington Redskins have a reputation for overspending, it just makes for juicier conversation.

The point is, as far as numbers are concerned, can we stay under the cap. And we always seem to find a way to do so. So I could care less how much they paid for Haynesworth. Seriously. The whole argument about cap numbers and too much in salary is worthless in my opinion. You either win or lose in this league. Fans don't give a shit how much you were under the cap come Super Bowl sunday every year. They just don't. Now there can be an argument made that if we don't spend too much on this guy, we can afford that guy. But I digress.

I just want the Skins to win. Period. Sometimes the big names work out and sometimes they don't. Bottom line, for the first time in a long time, we have a bona-fide bad ass in burgundy and gold. Sure, if he blows out his knee in camp, yeah, it looks like a bad effin move. But if we can keep Brandon Jacobs from running down our throats on third and short with the division title on the line, you betcha, Haynesworth was worth every burgundy cent of his contract.

I get your point, to an extent. But it seems to oversimplify a broader issue; what's the best way to build a winner? The approach of signing the best guy to the biggest contract hasn't worked. Not just here, but elsewhere. We debate these issues here because we have knowledgable people & a few capologists that take the time to provide us w/info & potential scenarios. If we didn't look at the contracts in such a manner, this site would get boring IMO.

As for the $ side of it. If you're a fan you should care, our $ as consumers allows this to go on. If good players that we drafted are cut due to these big signings, as a fan I care. I want to see the team builds its own talent & pay them ONCE they proven themselves here in DC. Every signing has an implication for the cap & the future. This one has HUGE implications!

On your last sentence, you mean "gold" cent don't you?

[munny]

Originally Posted by firstdown

If I'm correct our back up QB is something like 4 to 1 so what do you base that off of.

I base it off of the fact that Collins played one year in his career well and in one system. He looked completely lost in Zorn's system. The 3rd stringer is a preseason fanboy star, but will not cut it. I hope Collins could step in, but I just don't see any real hope for depth there.

[GTripp0012]

I voted for love the player and the money. And I voted for that knowing that I don't like the money at all.

But from what I understand, the team got the contract structure they wanted, and landed their guy only 5 hours into free agency, so this is great work on all sides. Our DL is far, far better than it was at this point yesterday.

And no, this doesn't make our team $41 million dollars better. But it does make the team better, and that's not usually something that happens through free agency. It takes a special player to change the prospectus of an entire organization, and we did that today.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

All I ask is they find a way to bring in Dock and Willis and this will go in the books as one hell of a free agent weekend.

Ditto DB... but i don't see how we have the money. Admittedly I suck at grasping the cap and especially at how contracts can be structured but I thought after the Springs cut we are just barely below the cap (about $1 mill under). Where the hell r we going to get the $5 to 7 mill unless Taylor is restructured, which i'm totally against, or outright cut?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Ditto DB... but i don't see how we have the money. Admittedly I suck at grasping the cap and especially at how contracts can be structured but I thought after the Springs cut we are just barely below the cap (about $1 mill under). Where the hell r we going to get the $5 to 7 mill unless Taylor is restructured, which i'm totally against, or outright cut?

I think both the Haynesworth and Hall deals were submitted to the league office before we made the decision to cut Springs. So I'm guessing the 12 million we had was eaten by those two large contracts, but now the Springs release creates another free 6 million dollars.

And it completes my prediction back from January that the Redskins would have to release two veterans in order to be major players in the FA market. Taylor appears safe, but unless we can get a trade for one of our DTs, we'll only be able to bring in one FA lineman plus whoever we use the first round pick on.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Buster

Wow.

He's a dumbass for signing the top free agent available when all of the "experts" said our cap wouldn't permit it?

He's a financial, specifically a salary cap genius. Every year, he's able to turn what looks like cap hell into the capability to sign anyone we need or want. He does it with how contracts are written, plus every year we have some big names who are committed to the team and are willing to restructure to free up cap room. They wouldn't do that if they hated Snyder and weren't buying into the team's future.

That was just an ignorant statement.

I really hope we get to see Snyder operate without a salary cap. This should be fun and we'll definitely win a few more Lombardis.

People hate the Yankees because they can buy whatever player they wish, well, Snyder is just like Steinbrenner...a very successful man who worked to build a fortune. I may not like the Yanks, but if our Skins are one of the most valuable franchises in the world (were #1 before Dallas built their new stadium with a hole in the roof), I am happy about it.

With or without a salary cap, some teams like the Lions will always be bad because of ownership decisions. The Redskins have an owner who has not only become a better owner football-wise, but has all of the money in the league at his disposal because of his personal success.

That's fine and dandy but every year we're up against the cap and we're never a SB contending team. Maybe they ought to change the way they do business.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think both the Haynesworth and Hall deals were submitted to the league office before we made the decision to cut Springs. So I'm guessing the 12 million we had was eaten by those two large contracts, but now the Springs release creates another free 6 million dollars.

And it completes my prediction back from January that the Redskins would have to release two veterans in order to be major players in the FA market. Taylor appears safe, but unless we can get a trade for one of our DTs, we'll only be able to bring in one FA lineman plus whoever we use the first round pick on.

Fascinating that we were able to get this done on 12 million... so cutting Springs would def indicate we're gonna give some help to the o-line in FA. I would really like to get Dock and Willis but actually if we have to limit it to a single lineman i want Brown.

GTripp i'm very, very curious how you see our front seven lining up on defense. Who will play the ends? Who will be play OLBs? And... are we still a 4-3 defense for absolutely sure?

[mooby]

This is gonna be a looking at this from different perspectives kinda comment. Basically, I think Al Haynesworth is a good player. Is he worth 100 million? Nope. Imo the only people worth 100 million are the ones that you know absolutely deserve it, and Haynesworth has too many questions (examples: can he stay healthy? will he play here like he did in Tennessee? How do we know he wasn't just in it for the money the last two seasons?) for him to be worth it.

I just feel like this is the same old song and dance, and I get tired of it happening every other year with mixed success. 100 Mil is a big gamble on a player, even if he is the best at his position. I also feel like Danny does this just to get the Redskins name on the front page. I take notice of the fact that pretty much all of the Super Bowl winners these past few years were relatively quiet in free agency.

But all that is from a non-football perspective. From a football perspective this sounds like a good idea, Haynesworth is a monster who can eat up double teams and be very disruptive up the middle, which will create opportunities for Taylor and Carter and just make our defense better as a whole. I'm just worried Haynesworth won't live up to his end of the deal.