Fitzmagic Thread

MTK · 03-24-2021, 10:50 AM

I'm trying to picture a conversation between Ron and Fitzpatrick where Ron tries to sell him on the idea of coming in to back up Taylor Heinicke.

Or even the idea he has to come in and compete for the job with a guy like Heinicke.

I don't think Fitzpatrick would have bothered signing here if either of those situations were the case and he probably would have laughed Rivera out of the room in the process.

skinsfaninok · 03-24-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I'm trying to picture a conversation between Ron and Fitzpatrick where Ron tries to sell him on the idea of coming in to back up Taylor Heinicke.

Or even the idea he has to come in and compete for the job with a guy like Heinicke.

I don't think Fitzpatrick would have bothered signing here if either of those situations were the case and he probably would have laughed Rivera out of the room in the process.

He said on the Ross Tucker interview that he would have retired if he was asked to be a backup.. He is the QB1 for this season no doubt about it

Chief X_Phackter · 03-24-2021, 12:23 PM

Yeah, Taylor Heinicke is a nice story, and it could have been an even better story if the defense had held up in the playoffs...but he should count his blessings that he is even in the mix at this point. A lot of dominoes had to fall for him to even get the call to be the Wild Card starter.

I hope he shows enough in the offseason to win the #2 job. I think he is the perfect backup for Fitzpatrick. You already know he can come in on short notice and be effective.

Meks · 03-24-2021, 12:36 PM

TH wins the camp battle but is forced to sit anyway

skinsfaninok · 03-24-2021, 06:40 PM

Montez probably doesn’t even make the team

skinsfan69 · 03-25-2021, 09:54 PM

Why would Allen be the #2? His contract is nothing comparted to TH. That tells you pretty much what they think of both of them. One got a lot of respect financially and the other basically got peanuts.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-25-2021, 09:56 PM

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Why would Allen be the #2? His contract is nothing comparted to TH. That tells you pretty much what they think of both of them. One got a lot of respect financially and the other basically got peanuts.

I think there is a "competition" for all 3 spots. But the real competition is between Heinicke and Allen for No. 2. May the best man win.

Chief X_Phackter · 03-25-2021, 10:23 PM

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Why would Allen be the #2? His contract is nothing comparted to TH. That tells you pretty much what they think of both of them. One got a lot of respect financially and the other basically got peanuts.

Allen got less because he was an exclusive rights free agent (ERFA).

ERFA: Any player with fewer than three accrued seasons and an expired contract. If his original team offers him a one-year contract and the league minimum (based on his credited seasons), the player cannot negotiate with other teams.

MTK · 03-26-2021, 10:02 AM

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Why would Allen be the #2? His contract is nothing comparted to TH. That tells you pretty much what they think of both of them. One got a lot of respect financially and the other basically got peanuts.

Do you really think TH leapfrogged Allen based on that 1 game?

The contracts are irrelevant in trying to determine who's the QB2 or 3, Allen was paid based on his ERFA status which pays less than the RFA status TH had.

ERFA, RFA and Washington’s quarterbacks

AnonEmouse · 03-26-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Do you really think TH leapfrogged Allen based on that 1 game?

The contracts are irrelevant in trying to determine who's the QB2 or 3, Allen was paid based on his ERFA status which pays less than the RFA status TH had.

ERFA, RFA and Washington’s quarterbacks

True, but you can also take the view that if they thought Allen was the better #2 option, why offer TH a contract at all, let alone the amount he got?

I reckon their thinking went like this; TH showed well in the TB game and everyone really got behind him. If we lose out in FA and the draft we need a guy to at least start the season everyone can buy into as a potential starter. Allen got hurt badly and hadn't shown a lot to that point, but he knows the system, we know what we have in him and we need the depth at this point. We're at low exposure if we tender him as he has to sign, and if he can't come back from the ankle, then it's a minimal hit.

If I'm right the clear thinking right now is Fitz is #1, TH #2, Allen #3 and Montez will either not survive camp or (as suggested) be tried out at another position. If we do draft a QB again, then they'll likely be going up against Allen for a PS spot (assuming Allen is still eligible).

skinsfan69 · 03-27-2021, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Do you really think TH leapfrogged Allen based on that 1 game?

The contracts are irrelevant in trying to determine who's the QB2 or 3, Allen was paid based on his ERFA status which pays less than the RFA status TH had.

ERFA, RFA and Washington’s quarterbacks

Yes. Playoff game as well as the one where he came in off the bench.

Meks · 03-29-2021, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mtk

do you really think th leapfrogged allen based on that 1 game?

The contracts are irrelevant in trying to determine who's the qb2 or 3, allen was paid based on his erfa status which pays less than the rfa status th had.

erfa, rfa and washington’s quarterbacks

yes.

EdmundDorf · 03-26-2021, 03:35 AM

I wonder whether Montez is a candidate to switch to TE, he is clearly not going to make it as a QB in the league, and given his size and athleticism it would make more sense than keeping him on the roster as a QB weapon ala Taysom Hill, if indeed Ben Standig is accurate in his report on the thought process of the coaching staff

Just a thought, but my last word on Montez, I have wasted too many characters on practice squad QBs already

SkinzWin · 03-26-2021, 05:49 AM

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I wonder whether Montez is a candidate to switch to TE, he is clearly not going to make it as a QB in the league, and given his size and athleticism it would make more sense than keeping him on the roster as a QB weapon ala Taysom Hill, if indeed Ben Standig is accurate in his report on the thought process of the coaching staff

Just a thought, but my last word on Montez, I have wasted too many characters on practice squad QBs already

Logan Thomas 2.0

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-29-2021, 01:29 PM

That dude's voice... yikes.

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03-24-2021, 12:36 PM	#4
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03-24-2021, 06:40 PM	#5
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03-25-2021, 09:54 PM	#6
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,439	Re: Fitzmagic Thread Why would Allen be the #2? His contract is nothing comparted to TH. That tells you pretty much what they think of both of them. One got a lot of respect financially and the other basically got peanuts.

03-26-2021, 03:35 AM	#13
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,926	Re: Fitzmagic Thread I wonder whether Montez is a candidate to switch to TE, he is clearly not going to make it as a QB in the league, and given his size and athleticism it would make more sense than keeping him on the roster as a QB weapon ala Taysom Hill, if indeed Ben Standig is accurate in his report on the thought process of the coaching staff Just a thought, but my last word on Montez, I have wasted too many characters on practice squad QBs already

03-24-2021, 10:50 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Fitzmagic Thread I'm trying to picture a conversation between Ron and Fitzpatrick where Ron tries to sell him on the idea of coming in to back up Taylor Heinicke. Or even the idea he has to come in and compete for the job with a guy like Heinicke. I don't think Fitzpatrick would have bothered signing here if either of those situations were the case and he probably would have laughed Rivera out of the room in the process. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-24-2021, 12:23 PM	#3
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,644	Re: Fitzmagic Thread Yeah, Taylor Heinicke is a nice story, and it could have been an even better story if the defense had held up in the playoffs...but he should count his blessings that he is even in the mix at this point. A lot of dominoes had to fall for him to even get the call to be the Wild Card starter. I hope he shows enough in the offseason to win the #2 job. I think he is the perfect backup for Fitzpatrick. You already know he can come in on short notice and be effective.

03-29-2021, 01:29 PM	#15
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Fitzmagic Thread That dude's voice... yikes. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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