Big Ben off the hook again.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

People like to see celebritites go down...but I for one feel that this is true. I mean Micheal Jackson was never accused of molesting children...but most would tend to agree that he was a very wierd individual and *probably* did it.

This being the 2nd time he has been accused...and not the first time that he has done something stupid...like wreck a motorcycle on the freeway going what...85mph?

Or I just like to call him Ben Rapelesberger b/c I hate The Steelers...and their bandwagon fans in my town that swear up and down that they have been fans their whole lives...but just a few years ago...they were the biggest Patriots fans ever.

Crashing a motorcycle has nothing to do with this. There can be 200 accusations, I wanna see proof that she was even sexuality assaulted before I say he's guilty.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Crashing a motorcycle has nothing to do with this. There can be 200 accusations, I wanna see proof that she was even sexuality assaulted before I say he's guilty.

Agree'd that it has nothing to do with the rape allegation. But it still brings up the question that his judgement is below par.

And you really think that if he was accused 200 times...you wouldn't even once think that he did do something wrong?

And...you don't think it's at all shady...that the video evidence was destroyed? Not a single bit?

But I will tell you a FACT...if he were a regular human being...living on a normal salary right now...he'd be behind bars...same with Dante Stallworth. NFL players...and celebrities...are always given a free card...and it's ridiculous.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

People like to see celebritites go down...but I for one feel that this is true. I mean Micheal Jackson was never accused of molesting children...but most would tend to agree that he was a very wierd individual and *probably* did it.

This being the 2nd time he has been accused...and not the first time that he has done something stupid...like wreck a motorcycle on the freeway going what...85mph?

Or I just like to call him Ben Rapelesberger b/c I hate The Steelers...and their bandwagon fans in my town that swear up and down that they have been fans their whole lives...but just a few years ago...they were the biggest Patriots fans ever.

Yep -- they're frontrunners like no other. From 1980-1995 you couldn't find a Steelers fan anywhere outside Pittsburgh. Now they're everywhere.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

People like to see celebritites go down...but I for one feel that this is true. I mean Micheal Jackson was never accused of molesting children...but most would tend to agree that he was a very wierd individual and *probably* did it.

This being the 2nd time he has been accused...and not the first time that he has done something stupid...like wreck a motorcycle on the freeway going what...85mph?

Or I just like to call him Ben Rapelesberger b/c I hate The Steelers...and their bandwagon fans in my town that swear up and down that they have been fans their whole lives...but just a few years ago...they were the biggest Patriots fans ever.

Umm, yes he was.
1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Umm, yes he was.
1993 child sexual abuse accusations against Michael Jackson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

yeah, guessing he meant convicted of

[DCSportsFan98]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't care either way but I love that everyone is saying he bought his way outta this. Do you have proof that he did?????

the girl he raped didnt want to go through with the prosecution. $$$$

he still should get suspended at least 4 games

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by DCSportsFan98

the girl he raped didnt want to go through with the prosecution. $$$$

he still should get suspended at least 4 games

first, lots of rape victims don't want to go through with prosecutions regardless of $$$$

second, he wasn't accused of rape.

third, you are right he probably will get suspended, at least for 1 game, maybe more, either by the league or by the team.

[TheBackupKicker]

if he doesnt get suspended roger goodell should get fired

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by TheBackupKicker

if he doesnt get suspended roger goodell should get fired

So if he doesn't get suspended for not breaking the law then Goodell gets fired, where's the logic in that?

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So if he doesn't get suspended for not breaking the law then Goodell gets fired, where's the logic in that?

I just wish that they would be fair to all technically Pacman only had allegations against him and was suspended. If Goodell is ruling with an iron fist I expect everyone to be treated equally. Curious to see if Shaun Rogers gets suspended and for how long.

[mlmpetert]

I just read through all the posts, ive also been half-hazardly been keeping up on the case on the internet. There doesnt really seem to be any solid facts supporting the accusation, please correct me if im wrong. There is a video tape that got recorded over, but it doesn’t really seem like anyone even knows what the video tape recorded (the bathroom, or just the general bar areas?).

Whats really scary is that without any real evidence (again please correct me if im wrong) Ben will now forever carry around the stigma of being labeled a rapist. Most people commenting on this thread believe he raped this girl. It seems like most people out there also seem to believe that Ben will likely get in some sort of trouble for his accused actions, either getting a short suspension, substance abuse class, or something else.

Can anyone just lay out the facts or post links to the facts that seem like Ben actually raped this girl?

[DCSportsFan98]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

I just read through all the posts, ive also been half-hazardly been keeping up on the case on the internet. There doesnt really seem to be any solid facts supporting the accusation, please correct me if im wrong. There is a video tape that got recorded over, but it doesn’t really seem like anyone even knows what the video tape recorded (the bathroom, or just the general bar areas?).

Whats really scary is that without any real evidence (again please correct me if im wrong) Ben will now forever carry around the stigma of being labeled a rapist. Most people commenting on this thread believe he raped this girl. It seems like most people out there also seem to believe that Ben will likely get in some sort of trouble for his accused actions, either getting a short suspension, substance abuse class, or something else.

Can anyone just lay out the facts or post links to the facts that seem like Ben actually raped this girl?

he invited her into the VIP section, bought her drinks, then took her into a bathroom and one of his bodyguards stood at the door. hmmmm...what could this mean?

[warpaint]

The proof was erased. Also at first Ben and his entourage claimed Ben didn't drink at all, but there are people stating diffrent, even the officer who took his statement said he seemed tipsy.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warpaint

The proof was erased. Also at first Ben and his entourage claimed Ben didn't drink at all, but there are people stating diffrent, even the officer who took his statement said he seemed tipsy.

So you saw the video that was erased? And last I checked being tipsy is a far cry from sexual assault. But hey, I am sure that the District attorney, and the investigators all have no clue how to conduct and differentiate.

Seriously, I have no clue what Big Ben did or didn't do. If he was guilty and got away with it, he is a lucky man(to which his fame and money certainly contributed). If he was innocent, and got this smear campaign(to which his fame and money also certainly contributed) then that's a lousy thing.

Let the lambasting continue.

[warpaint]

What I mean he and others said, he didn't drink at all that night wich seems to me to be a lie.

The whole video being deleted before any one else could get a chance to watch it doesn't feel right.

If he gets away with it thats fine for him, but if truly treats women like that it will happen again. If it does, hopefully he gets what he deserves. If he is truly innocent why didnt he hold a press confrence like last year.