Giants at Redskins Post Game Thread

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

Yea, one of the rare misses. I guarantee he will learn from that and hit it later this year.

It's a good bet. Tana's pretty short though lol...

[That Guy]

yeah, banks can be tossed overboard. not to be too harsh, but he's not helping us and he's wasting that roster spot.

[53Fan]

Good job Haslett. Keep it going! Has he just realized he needs to do this???

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Good job Haslett. Keep it going! Has he just realized he needs to do this???

Old dog learning new tricks?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Good job Haslett. Keep it going! Has he just realized he needs to do this???

I'm still not sold on our defense.

We need to get hits on the QB. WE NEED SACKS. We need BETTER COVERAGE. I personally think the Giants just beat themselves on Monday. They were driving on us from one end of the field all the way to the red zone and their drives would either result in a field goal, or would be an incomplete off the finger tips pass, to force a punt.

Haslett still needs to go at the end of the year.

And like I said, our offense is now our defense, because we've gotten so good teams are going to try what the Giants did; long drive to keep our offense off the field.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm still not sold on our defense.

We need to get hits on the QB. WE NEED SACKS. We need BETTER COVERAGE. I personally think the Giants just beat themselves on Monday. They were driving on us from one end of the field all the way to the red zone and their drives would either result in a field goal, or would be an incomplete off the finger tips pass, to force a punt.

Haslett still needs to go at the end of the year.

And like I said, our offense is now our defense, because we've gotten so good teams are going to try what the Giants did; long drive to keep our offense off the field.

I concur with everything you stated.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm still not sold on our defense.

We need to get hits on the QB. WE NEED SACKS. We need BETTER COVERAGE. I personally think the Giants just beat themselves on Monday. They were driving on us from one end of the field all the way to the red zone and their drives would either result in a field goal, or would be an incomplete off the finger tips pass, to force a punt.

Haslett still needs to go at the end of the year.

And like I said, our offense is now our defense, because we've gotten so good teams are going to try what the Giants did; long drive to keep our offense off the field.

How do you this 3/4 through the season? We are not gonna magically aquire talent or our bench guys are not aquire pro bowl talent. You have to scheme and strategize. This is why you pay your D cord and coaches big money. Its on them at this point. They've had zilch to work with in the secondary this season and like Jaws stated above we've lost 2 key rush players. So far the second half of the season Haslett been up to the challenge, holding the Giants and their really good offense to that score was an amazing job. Lets see how this plays out.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I'm still not sold on our defense.

We need to get hits on the QB. WE NEED SACKS. We need BETTER COVERAGE. I personally think the Giants just beat themselves on Monday. They were driving on us from one end of the field all the way to the red zone and their drives would either result in a field goal, or would be an incomplete off the finger tips pass, to force a punt.

Haslett still needs to go at the end of the year.

And like I said, our offense is now our defense, because we've gotten so good teams are going to try what the Giants did; long drive to keep our offense off the field.

You can't just say "we need sacks" or "we need better coverage". At this point in the season, your coverage unit is what is, and your pressure is what it is. What you need is a coach that understands what you do, how you do it, what your opponent is, and how they do it, then maximize your skills to minimize their points.

You say the Giants beat themselves, and I wholeheartedly agree. BUT Why did they beat themselves? Because our defense kept them from executing what they normally do, and made them do it repeatedly, and they didn't.

We are not going to be a shut down corner style team this year ever. We aren't going to win by pure blitz pressure, because our corners don't stand up to that. We will win by forcing the opponents to play mistake free, and not give up quick scores. If we do that, we win.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You can't just say "we need sacks" or "we need better coverage". At this point in the season, your coverage unit is what is, and your pressure is what it is. What you need is a coach that understands what you do, how you do it, what your opponent is, and how they do it, then maximize your skills to minimize their points.

You say the Giants beat themselves, and I wholeheartedly agree. BUT Why did they beat themselves? Because our defense kept them from executing what they normally do, and made them do it repeatedly, and they didn't.

We are not going to be a shut down corner style team this year ever. We aren't going to win by pure blitz pressure, because our corners don't stand up to that. We will win by forcing the opponents to play mistake free, and not give up quick scores. If we do that, we win.

1) I know I can't ask for that at this point of the season. All I'm saying basically and the root of all this is that this defense is not trust worthy and will not get us far.

2) you agree with me that the giants beat themselves; yet you want me to explain why..? Because the Giants were driving on us so well, (pass, run, pass, run..) and then they would get into the redzone and either over throw an open receiver causing a field goal, Eli would feel pressure (when there wasn't any) and dump it off to his receiver underneath) or the giants would throw it to an open receiver on 3rd and long and the receiver would miss the conversion by a toe (the nicks play along the sideline), the off the finger plays to cruz either by drop or over thrown. The holding call on the OL when Bennett had a would have been first down. Like I said the Giants had a little play here and a little play there where they stopped their drive or their drive was the difference between 7 and 3. (also their very good kicker this year missed a very makeable 45 yarder; he makes it, Giants probably win that game.

3) I completely agree with you. What I'm saying is this defense isn't a super bowl caliber winning defense. Why did I say Super Bowl? Because I whole heartily think---yes me the 'negative' one here on this board, think that this team is getting hot right now at the right time (see GB, NYG's of the past 2 super bowl years,) and thats huge to get to the playoffs. We have an offense which everyone just has no idea how to stop with an MVP caliber player right now--we are the team no one wants to play. When I look at the playoff eligible teams; I don't see one team that I honestly don't think we can't beat. This team reminds me of the 08 Cardinals. Great offense. Bend but don't break defense, which can't get much pressure and whose CBs suck. But like that cardinals team, they lost in the super bowl to a team with a better offense (and defense) I have that bad bad feeling that if the skins were to make a playoff run, and beat out the NFC, which is very very possible IMO, I think we'd play New England and lose because of my despise of that team, and the fact that that offense is nearly impossible to stop with this secondary (last year we hung with them with Orakpo and Carriker--whom both didn't get a single sack, but some pressure) The only team in the NFC playoff hunt whom I think would give us the hardest game would be Green Bay, because of Aaron Rodgers and his WR core on our secondary..

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Really smart play on Tana's part. I've seen receivers just stop on plays like that instead of continuing and giving their QB a chance to make a play.

Nah hes just a me guy lookin to pad his stats. Lol.
Good point man - hadnt looked at it that way but yes - he was watching Griff run for his life and realized the safeties were gonna peel back and it would have been a td for sure had Griff seen it.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Good job Haslett. Keep it going! Has he just realized he needs to do this???

Maybe the players are just executing.

[SmootSmack]

I love Jaws, but I'm not sure what he's talking about saying we confused Eli

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I love Jaws, but I'm not sure what he's talking about saying we confused Eli

Eli always looks confused. Maybe Jaws dldn't know that.

[PWNED]

maybe second half? he definitely didnt look as comfortable then as he did in the first half. first half he was KILLING us.

[donofriose]

Giants are a one of the more inconsistent offenses in the league. Looking great one half and then bad the other. Then looking like the best team in the NFL and then looking terrible. They go game to go game looking completely different. Still the defense did not allow touchdowns but they also allowed the giants to hold the ball a ridiculous portion of the first half. A good defensive coordinator gets their team off the field on 3rd and 10's.