Snyder Consulting With Haynesworth

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Thankfully for the American educational system, you need to acquire a higher level of learning than the people you are teaching.

depends what county you are in

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

To me, Snyder asking Haynesworth for solutions is like a principal asking a student what the curriculum for the year should be.

The students would only give you valuable advice if you both are academically on the same grade level.

Thankfully for the American educational system, you need to acquire a higher level of learning than the people you are teaching.

Maybe I am taking your statement the wrong way, if so sorry. Isn't one big complaint about Snyder that he doesn't KNOW football. I am sure he never played DT, so from that viewpoint DS would be the junior and AH the teacher.
Overall though I still would rather he keep his comments and discussions at the coach/and higher level. It just distracts.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Maybe I am taking your statement the wrong way, if so sorry. Isn't one big complaint about Snyder that he doesn't KNOW football. I am sure he never played DT, so from that viewpoint DS would be the junior and AH the teacher.
Overall though I still would rather he keep his comments and discussions at the coach/and higher level. It just distracts.

The analogy is supposed to point to how things should be.

In our case though Snyder is the principal who doesn't have a teaching degree or a masters of any kind. His best solution is to ask around to see if someone knows what the hell their doing because he sure doesn't.


Just the fact that he is asking players about their opinion on this situation is physical evidence enough that he has NO CLUE in dealing with football operations. Someone who may have personal knowledge is an actual GM or Team President who has vast experience to make decisions like these...Check into it Dan!

And don't surround yourself with fools because people far away won't be able to tell who is who.

[mlmdub130]

did anyone see nbc4 sports during the 6 oclock hour yesterday, it showed a video of practice where snyder was in redskins black tshirt and a pair of redskins gym shorts standing next to portis in shoulder pads talking about god knows what, it was just weird seeing him out there like he was a back coach talking to portis, i really don't like that guy maybe you hadn't heard

[tootergray34]

this was probably just a casual conversation thrown way outta proportion

[Ruhskins]

Well Haynesworth was in a successful winning playoff team last year. LOL.

Seriously, this really doesn't matter. If he speaks to players, oh well.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well Haynesworth was in a successful winning playoff team last year. LOL.

Seriously, this really doesn't matter. If he speaks to players, oh well.

Well, if people want to gain insight into what to change in this organization, this is a great example.

Snyder is clearly showing he has no clue with what to do and he is seeking advice from the likes of players who all have ZERO coaching or general managing experience. Remember players usually start off their coaches careers after their playing careers. They don't make an impact in coaching ranks until they've gained some applicable experience a la Mike Singletary.


If you're quickly dismissing this as just a conversation then you're failing to see the overall answer to the question "What is wrong with the Redskins"...simple answer: Dan Snyder doing more than he needs to as owner.

Just hire an NFL esteemed GM and give him FULL AUTHORITY AND ACCOUNTABILTY and this fiasco is over.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well, if people want to gain insight into what to change in this organization, this is a great example.

Snyder is clearly showing he has no clue with what to do and he is seeking advice from the likes of players who all have ZERO coaching or general managing experience. Remember players usually start off their coaches careers after their playing careers. They don't make an impact in coaching ranks until they've gained some applicable experience a la Mike Singletary.


If you're quickly dismissing this as just a conversation then you're failing to see the overall answer to the question "What is wrong with the Redskins"...simple answer: Dan Snyder doing more than he needs to as owner.

Just hire an NFL esteemed GM and give him FULL AUTHORITY AND ACCOUNTABILTY and this fiasco is over.

I think you'd have to be either very naive or have lived under a rock to not know what is wrong with this team. I'm dismissing this because this doesn't tell me anything new about what is wrong with the team nor do I think this is an overly positive thing.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well, if people want to gain insight into what to change in this organization, this is a great example.

Snyder is clearly showing he has no clue with what to do and he is seeking advice from the likes of players who all have ZERO coaching or general managing experience. Remember players usually start off their coaches careers after their playing careers. They don't make an impact in coaching ranks until they've gained some applicable experience a la Mike Singletary.


If you're quickly dismissing this as just a conversation then you're failing to see the overall answer to the question "What is wrong with the Redskins"...simple answer: Dan Snyder doing more than he needs to as owner.

Just hire an NFL esteemed GM and give him FULL AUTHORITY AND ACCOUNTABILTY and this fiasco is over.

Could not have said it better myself - there is no additional need to ask why the team is not going in the right direction - trying to think otherwise is simply overanalyzing things.

Dan - you care about the fans so much? All we ask is just try it the other way for once - please hire a proven GM and get out of the way and just sign the paychecks - we will live with the rebuilding and all the setbacks going this route of building through the draft, I promise you that many fans like myself will stick behind the team, attend games, buy merchandise if you just take this step. And when we win another Super Bowl Trophy I can say if it makes you feel any better if you go this route we will shower you with priase for taking the steps necessary to build a new foundation - not too mention the media that bashed you left and right will stop.

[cdskins26]

Nothing wrong with him consulting with haynesworth. He hasnt been the same player this year, similar to jason taylor last year, archuleta 3 years ago, etc. Our defensive free agents recently have not lived up to expectation, the only ones i can think of who have are london fletcher and maybe deangelo hall.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by cdskins26

Nothing wrong with him consulting with haynesworth. He hasnt been the same player this year, similar to jason taylor last year, archuleta 3 years ago, etc. Our defensive free agents recently have not lived up to expectation, the only ones i can think of who have are london fletcher and maybe deangelo hall.

AH has been doing very good in my eyes, he is very disruptive and the Titans are truly missing him this year. If you just look and see how other players are getting to the QB it proves he is getting the job done. We have as much sack now than we had all of last year.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by warpaint

AH has been doing very good in my eyes, he is very disruptive and the Titans are truly missing him this year. If you just look and see how other players are getting to the QB it proves he is getting the job done. We have as much sack now than we had all of last year.

I agree he is having a beast year. People want to see him with sacks but thats not his job. Look at Andre Carters numbers and that will let you know how good AH is playing.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by RedskinMike

I agree he is having a beast year. People want to see him with sacks but thats not his job. Look at Andre Carters numbers and that will let you know how good AH is playing.

he is having a good year and he is helping carter and orakpo have great years, i would just like to see him in the game when it's 3rd and 7 instead of on the bench, he has been great when he is in the game, just needs to practice and get his conditioning up so he can be in on more downs

[SBXVII]

Maybe DS was meeting with AH to learn about the Titans coach who is supposed to be let go after the season. Maybe DS was wondering if he could work with him again? No one knows what the meeting was about.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Maybe DS was meeting with AH to learn about the Titans coach who is supposed to be let go after the season. Maybe DS was wondering if he could work with him again? No one knows what the meeting was about.

Per the article:
"They're usually 15-, 20-, even 30-minute conversations sometimes, depends on what the day is looking like. You know, he's just a big fan. He's a guy who will do anything to get the right players and to win. That's what he wants to do, he wants to win.

"Most of all our conversations start out, like 'How can we win? Can we win this week? What do you think?' and things like that."

Just as you are saying we can't guess at what they are talking about, we know factually what they are talking about. He clearly says that they are speaking about potential solutions to fixing the Redskins problems. That topic is stated in this article. Any other topic of conversation is not listed so can not be factually discussed.

This was a factual conversation that took place between Snyder and Haynesworth, per Haynesworth's account.

That can be discussed as fact. Any other side conversations that people are bringing up as potentially being discussed is not factual and is subject to speculation.


This article though clearly states that they've previously and continually discuss the problems of the Redskins and potential solutions.