Fitzmagic Thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I will say its better Mitch, but still I am a bit disappointed. Not so much its Fitz but the fact we really didn't check off that franchise QB box still. Been spinning wheels on that one for awhile now.

You mean forever now lol

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I will say its better Mitch, but still I am a bit disappointed. Not so much its Fitz but the fact we really didn't check off that franchise QB box still. Been spinning wheels on that one for awhile now.

How were they going to check that box? I think they realize none of the top college guys are going to be there when they pick. Ron isn't going to do some stupid RG3 trade.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

How were they going to check that box? I think they realize none of the top college guys are going to be there when they pick. Ron isn't going to do some stupid RG3 trade.

Yeah man I agree, there wasn't many options to check that box.

The Watson dreaming got me hoping.

[skinsfaninok]

We all would LOVE Watson but that was never going to happen... You would have to deal 3 first and CY or Sweat for him and then what's the point?

[Chico23231]

Hienicke, Allen, Fitz > Derp Haskins, Allen, Smith

I’ll take it

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Hienicke, Allen, Fitz > Derp Haskins, Allen, Smith

I’ll take it

I see what you did there with putting Heinicke first in QB order. 😉

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I see what you did there with putting Heinicke first in QB order. 😉

Ha...good eye! I think Fitz is the starter but interesting that John Clayton and a couple others have mentioned, Skins still in for Darnold of price comes down

[skinsfaninok]

Fitz is WAY better than Haskins and Smith. He's the best passer we've had since Kirk

[MTK]

Love this move. We can compete in this division with RF.

[skinsfaninok]

12 Big Time Throws = Tight window where only the WR can catch it

14 Turnover worthy throws = Throwing into tight coverage where a defender can make a play on it.

It's going to be a roller coaster lol

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

12 Big Time Throws = Tight window where only the WR can catch it

14 Turnover worthy throws = Throwing into tight coverage where a defender can make a play on it.

It's going to be a roller coaster lol

Fitzpatrick is a student of the Brett Favruh school of quarterbacking, he's high risk and high reward. You either get 4 td's or 4 int's.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

Fitzpatrick is a student of the Brett Favruh school of quarterbacking, he's high risk and high reward. You either get 4 td's or 4 int's.

Yep, he's had some amazing plays over the last few years. At the very least he'll bring excitement

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by mooby

Fitzpatrick is a student of the Brett Favruh school of quarterbacking, he's high risk and high reward. You either get 4 td's or 4 int's.

Favre won one SB on stacked teams. He lost countless playoff games with horrible picks. The problem is Fitz isn't as talented as Favre.

[Scalper]

C- grade signing. He is a 38 year old QB with a career losing record and a very low career QB rating. I understand the logic, better than trading draft picks or signing a similar above average but not great QB to a long term deal, and conventional but incorrect thinking is you need a dependable guy to bridge until you find a long-term answer. So we now have two stopgaps on roster, Fitz and Allen, who are NOT long term answers. If we draft a QB and cut Allen, this move looks a lot better, but we should be looking for long-term solutions. If we go into season with Heinecke, Fitz, and Allen at QB that is atrocious as only one QB is potential long term answer. What keeps this grade from being a D or F is that there are very limited options in free agency. Fitz is not leading us to a SB, we should be looking for QBs with potential to be long-term franchise SB winners. The proper move is to draft 1 QB and go with Heinecke, Allen, rookie, or ideally 2 rookies and Heinecke, and use $10M to resign Allen and others long term. Is our goal to win the participation trophy of an early playoff exit, or find a franchise QB that can win the big one? This is the problem with coach as GM, short term thinking. This is NOT the move Smith would have made if still GM. He would have drafted QBs.

So we have now spent $28M on Scherff and Fitz, while Allen isn't extended. F-ing brilliant. A competent FO would have locked up Allen first.

The single most important thing a GM or FO can do is get QB right. Our FO has not as of yet. We also read that Fitz is now the de facto starter. Sure there will be competition, but we need to be favoring younger players who could be long-term answer. I would much rather go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he isn't the answer, or go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he is the answer, than waste a year with a 38 year old QB who has never won a SB and is never going to win one for us. What may happen is that we start Fitz and never get a good enough look at Heinecke to see if he is the future, meaning next year we're right back in the exact same spot. This is a case study in why you don't give coach GM powers. All we are doing is sacrificing long-term for the short. It would actually be smarter to start Heinecke all year and if he isn't the answer you draft top 5 and get a franchise QB.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Scalper

C- grade signing. He is a 38 year old QB with a career losing record and a very low career QB rating. I understand the logic, better than trading draft picks or signing a similar above average but not great QB to a long term deal, and conventional but incorrect thinking is you need a dependable guy to bridge until you find a long-term answer. So we now have two stopgaps on roster, Fitz and Allen, who are NOT long term answers. If we draft a QB and cut Allen, this move looks a lot better, but we should be looking for long-term solutions. If we go into season with Heinecke, Fitz, and Allen at QB that is atrocious as only one QB is potential long term answer. What keeps this grade from being a D or F is that there are very limited options in free agency. Fitz is not leading us to a SB, we should be looking for QBs with potential to be long-term franchise SB winners. The proper move is to draft 1 QB and go with Heinecke, Allen, rookie, or ideally 2 rookies and Heinecke, and use $10M to resign Allen and others long term. Is our goal to win the participation trophy of an early playoff exit, or find a franchise QB that can win the big one? This is the problem with coach as GM, short term thinking. This is NOT the move Smith would have made if still GM. He would have drafted QBs.

So we have now spent $28M on Scherff and Fitz, while Allen isn't extended. F-ing brilliant. A competent FO would have locked up Allen first.

The single most important thing a GM or FO can do is get QB right. Our FO has not as of yet. We also read that Fitz is now the de facto starter. Sure there will be competition, but we need to be favoring younger players who could be long-term answer. I would much rather go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he isn't the answer, or go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he is the answer, than waste a year with a 38 year old QB who has never won a SB and is never going to win one for us. What may happen is that we start Fitz and never get a good enough look at Heinecke to see if he is the future, meaning next year we're right back in the exact same spot. This is a case study in why you don't give coach GM powers. All we are doing is sacrificing long-term for the short. It would actually be smarter to start Heinecke all year and if he isn't the answer you draft top 5 and get a franchise QB.

There are no QBs available at the moment with the potential to be long-term franchise SB winners. RR and team have the obligation to upgrade the position, and they can only do that with what is available. There is no guarantee they are able to get a QB they like in the draft.

There will be competition at QB, which is a good thing. After said competition, you start the QB that gives you the best chance to win, not the one you want to evaluate for 17 games to see if he can eventually / hopefully take you to the promise land.

The front office has been together for about 1.5 months. How about we give them some time to find a franchise QB.

Allen has another year on his contract, plenty of time to get a deal done yet.