2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well let's take Luck off. Now it's just Barkley or RGIII.

Here are the various reasons for my thinking. Tannehill, contrary to popular belief, wasn't a WR converted to QB. He was a QB coming into A&M, who played some WR before starting at QB. I think the combine and workouts will increase RT's value (and may drop RGIIIs a bit actually). Tannehill is a more unlikely choice, which fits a bit of the Mike Shanahan mold. Plus there is the Mike Sherman-Kyle Shanahan connection from their days with the Texans. And I also have a feeling still that our first first round pick won't be a QB.

So you think it will be Blackmon, Claiborne, Richardson, or Jeffery? I find it hard to believe that if we picked top 5 Shanny would pass on Barkley and RGIII if we had our pick of the two.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What about Nick Foles? He's seems to be just as good as Barkley if not better.

I think so. Barkley is a lot more polished as a player, but I think he's significantly less talented. I'd feel a lot better on draft day about a high pick on Foles than a high pick on Barkley.

With that said, my expectations in the NFL for Foles aren't any higher than those for Barkley, I just think Foles needs to be managed significantly less earlier in his career. He can clearly create outside the pocket, but movement in the pocket is so important in the modern game, and that's something Nick Foles has yet to master. With Barkley, that pocket presence is a non-issue.

[SBXVII]

#1- I too hope the team drafts a QB in the 1st round. One who is more accurate and more mobile and has speed or is evasive.

#2- I just have not been getting the feeling the coaching staff cares where they fall in the draft and what QB's might be available to them.

#3- We have had 2-3 weeks of this team battling hard, showing emotion, "almost" winning the games, tough games, and I sit back wondering although they are not outwardly showing they want to lose in order to pick up the next best QB, is there a posibility the coaching staff is finding a way to sabotage the games through play calling? I think ... ok your just being an idiot thinking like that, but the team plays as well as they have during the whole game then either it's the 4th quarter or last 5 min. it all goes to hell in a hand basket.

But all in all this is year 2 for the Shanahan's. The defense took a major step in the off season, and the offense even though it's not the starters has almost looked better these last 2-3 games with creating holes for the RB and pass protection.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm almost seeing the end of the tunnel and we have fans here shouting ...."Perhaps a change at HC is needed". Continuity, continuity, continuity. This team is starting to play better and actually look better because they have been in the same system for 2 yrs. Now lets see what they look like year 3 and 4. Although a loss, I was excited after yesterdays game because NE didn't sit their starters, they played to win the game and the Skins believe it or not played toe to toe with them. Not many other teams this year can say that. More would say they got blown out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So you think it will be Blackmon, Claiborne, Richardson, or Jeffery? I find it hard to believe that if we picked top 5 Shanny would pass on Barkley and RGIII if we had our pick of the two.

Shanahan does show a pretty extreme tendency against underclassmen though. Jarvis Moss and Ryan Clady both came out early and were first round picks by Shanahan, but you can almost be assured that the top of the Redskins board will be littered with seniors.

Basically, if there's a reason to believe that Barkley or Griffin won't be high on the Redskins board, it's because of precedent. With that said, I find it hard to believe if the Redskins pick in the top three, that neither Barkley or Griffin will be on their radar. Griffin in particularly seems like the kind of player that NFL scouts will fall in love with during the predraft process. And he's only kind of sort of an underclassman.

But it's also possible that the Rams will decide that RGIII is the greatest thing since sliced bread and take him, even though they don't exactly need a young QB.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Shanahan does show a pretty extreme tendency against underclassmen though. Jarvis Moss and Ryan Clady both came out early and were first round picks by Shanahan, but you can almost be assured that the top of the Redskins board will be littered with seniors.

Basically, if there's a reason to believe that Barkley or Griffin won't be high on the Redskins board, it's because of precedent. With that said, I find it hard to believe if the Redskins pick in the top three, that neither Barkley or Griffin will be on their radar. Griffin in particularly seems like the kind of player that NFL scouts will fall in love with during the predraft process. And he's only kind of sort of an underclassman.

But it's also possible that the Rams will decide that RGIII is the greatest thing since sliced bread and take him, even though they don't exactly need a young QB.

So GTripp and SmootSmack, With the 5th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select:

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So GTripp and SmootSmack, With the 5th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select:

I know I was not asked but I think they will pick a position of major need. It all depends on what they do in FA. Our needs

QB
OL
FS
CB
WR (atleast 1 more)

On a side note... was it 88 that made a TD yesterday? was that Anderson? for some reason I thought the announcers said Robinson but holey cow. So WR wise we have...

Moss
Hankerson
AA
Gaffney
Stallworth- stepped up the last 2 games
Anderson

All making plays. No Banks other then the trick play and no Austin.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So GTripp and SmootSmack, With the 5th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select:

If Matt Barkley doesn't come out, then I think Robert Griffin is gone by no. 5, and then I think Janoris Jenkins is the pick.

I think if Matt Barkley comes out, three quarterbacks get taken in the top five, and that makes Robert Griffin the Redskins pick.

[GTripp0012]

I'll point out that we cannot pick as far down the draft as no. 5 unless we win again. If the Redskins lose their last three games, they will pick fourth or higher.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So GTripp and SmootSmack, With the 5th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins select:

Umm....let's say Riley Reiff. Why not?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If Matt Barkley doesn't come out, then I think Robert Griffin is gone by no. 5, and then I think Janoris Jenkins is the pick.

I think if Matt Barkley comes out, three quarterbacks get taken in the top five, and that makes Robert Griffin the Redskins pick.

So you take Janoris Jenkins over Morris Claiborne? And I think we will win one more game.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I know I was not asked but I think they will pick a position of major need. It all depends on what they do in FA. Our needs

QB
OL
FS
CB
WR (atleast 1 more)

On a side note... was it 88 that made a TD yesterday? was that Anderson? for some reason I thought the announcers said Robinson but holey cow. So WR wise we have...

Moss
Hankerson
AA
Gaffney
Stallworth- stepped up the last 2 games
Anderson

All making plays. No Banks other then the trick play and no Austin.

Gotta give me a name SB.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Umm....let's say Riley Reiff. Why not?

Love that name but interesting, in my latest mock I had him going to Philly over Burflict

[Dirtbag59]

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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So you take Janoris Jenkins over Morris Claiborne? And I think we will win one more game.

Janoris Jenkins is the Patrick Peterson of this draft. And there's nothing wrong with Morris Claiborne. But you know the Shanahan underclassman thing applies to him too. I see no reason he won't be incredibly highly rated on the Redskins board, but this is the 5th overall pick we're talking about.

And yeah, the Redskins are going to win again this year. I'm just not sure the fanbase is prepared for it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think he's probably in the later first round/high second round category

He kind of reminds me of Jay Cutler.