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TheMalcolmConnection · 06-29-2006, 11:31 AM

Yeah, I was debating on that one, but at least Eli stays upright.

724Skinsfan · 06-29-2006, 11:35 AM

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Yeah, I was debating on that one, but at least Eli stays upright.

Hey, the first time the 'Skins play the 'boys do you think Philip Daniels is going to yell out ...

A) "Hey Bledsoe, remember me!"
B) "Knock, Knock!"
C) "What the f*ck are you looking at!"
D) "Take your damn pants off mu'uh fu'er!"

Southpaw · 06-29-2006, 11:36 AM

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Right, so let's just assume he's healthy for now, which he is.

Yeah, except for that whole broken finger on the throwing hand, thing. Hopefully the staff won't try to rush him back too quickly, and hopefully Brunell is smart enough to sit if it's still bugging him.

MTK · 06-29-2006, 11:42 AM

We always hear so much about how Brunell sucks when he's injured. This saying seems to be getting a little overused if you ask me.

What QB doesn't stink when he's hurt??

McNabb wasn't very effective last year playing hurt. Pennington was throwing lollipops with a bum shoulder. Those are just two examples I can think of. Typically, if a guy is playing hurt regardless of position, their effectiveness isn't going to be what it is when they are healthy.

As a QB I don't care who it is, a bad knee or hammy is going to have an effect.

Southpaw · 06-29-2006, 12:01 PM

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McNabb wasn't very effective last year playing hurt. Pennington was throwing lollipops with a bum shoulder. Those are just two examples I can think of. Typically, if a guy is playing hurt regardless of position, their effectiveness isn't going to be what it is when they are healthy.

As a QB I don't care who it is, a bad knee or hammy is going to have an effect.

That's my point, exactly. The reason why the health issue comes up with Brunell is because he's been injured two out of the last three seasons, and barely made it through last season in one piece.

At 35, it's obviously going to be harder for him to play with, and recover from injuries.

TheInspector · 06-29-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We always hear so much about how Brunell sucks when he's injured. This saying seems to be getting a little overused if you ask me.

What QB doesn't stink when he's hurt??

McNabb wasn't very effective last year playing hurt. Pennington was throwing lollipops with a bum shoulder. Those are just two examples I can think of. Typically, if a guy is playing hurt regardless of position, their effectiveness isn't going to be what it is when they are healthy.

As a QB I don't care who it is, a bad knee or hammy is going to have an effect.

Brett Favre is the only QB that comes to mind who doesn't completely suck when he is playing injured...I wish we had him instead of Brunell.

steveo395 · 06-29-2006, 12:05 PM

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Brett Favre is the only QB that comes to mind who doesn't completely suck when he is playing injured...I wish we had him instead of Brunell.

so 29 interceptions isnt completely sucking???

i don't know if he was injured or not but he blew either way

Southpaw · 06-29-2006, 12:07 PM

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Brett Favre is the only QB that comes to mind who doesn't completely suck when he is playing injured...I wish we had him instead of Brunell.

Uh oh. You better put on a flame retardent suit...

That Guy · 06-29-2006, 06:31 PM

our current rankings:
QB: 18
RB: 5
WR: 6
Pass D: 4
Run D: 6

looks good (and accurate) to me. I had us 7th at WR, and 4-6 in RB (do you want to count denver's system? etc)

I think our run D will be better than 6 this year, but last year holdman let a ton of 40+ yarders run by him, so it messed up the averages. Pass D seems about right, we've got 4 solid starters at DB and the DL has 2 studs and 2 average+ players. The bears and bucs have pass D systems though, and deserve the #1 and #2 spots (our D is based more on run blitzing).

That Guy · 06-29-2006, 06:39 PM

mcnair has played alright hurt... brady seems like he might be able to, but no QB is going to be 100% and there's a huge swath of injuries you can have to be considered 'hurt' some of which just aren't as bad.

I don't believe favre plays well hurt though, and he plays terribly when he tries to carry a bad team.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-29-2006, 06:50 PM

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mcnair has played alright hurt... brady seems like he might be able to, but no QB is going to be 100% and there's a huge swath of injuries you can have to be considered 'hurt' some of which just aren't as bad.

I don't believe favre plays well hurt though, and he plays terribly when he tries to carry a bad team.

McNair was the first QB that came to mind for me too.

I think the people that say Brunell stinks when he's hurt mean that he's particularly ineffective when he's hurt, even moreso than many QBs in the league.

Also, I thought we were ranked #2 in pass def, That Guy. When you said they had us at #4, was that the fan voting?

That Guy · 06-29-2006, 07:35 PM

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Also, I thought we were ranked #2 in pass def, That Guy. When you said they had us at #4, was that the fan voting?

yeah, fan voting. in 2005 we were #10 in pass D. but Green Bay was #1 causse no one NEEDED to pass on them, though they did give up 22 TDs. (chicago gave up 10 pass TDs, wash/tampa/pitts/car all gave up 15).

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-29-2006, 08:07 PM

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yeah, fan voting. in 2005 we were #10 in pass D. but Green Bay was #1 causse no one NEEDED to pass on them, though they did give up 22 TDs. (chicago gave up 10 pass TDs, wash/tampa/pitts/car all gave up 15).

That's funny, they were really ranked #1 because their run D was so bad? That's pretty miserable.

Does anyone know where we ranked in run D on ESPN?

hooskins · 06-29-2006, 09:42 PM

i wanna say 6th..but i think that is the voting...i think they are doing the run D tomorrow....

BrudLee · 06-29-2006, 11:00 PM

The way I see it, the ESPN UDC rating has us as tied for the second best team in the league right now.

If point totals are given corresponding to each rating, the Panthers are tops with 21 points (4+9+7+1). The Seahawks and the Redskins each have 25.

In our division, the Giants have 39, the Cowboys have 60, and the Eagles are at 83 points.

These totals are all pending the "Run defense ranking".

06-29-2006, 11:31 AM	#46
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart Yeah, I was debating on that one, but at least Eli stays upright. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-29-2006, 11:42 AM	#49
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,846	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart We always hear so much about how Brunell sucks when he's injured. This saying seems to be getting a little overused if you ask me. What QB doesn't stink when he's hurt?? McNabb wasn't very effective last year playing hurt. Pennington was throwing lollipops with a bum shoulder. Those are just two examples I can think of. Typically, if a guy is playing hurt regardless of position, their effectiveness isn't going to be what it is when they are healthy. As a QB I don't care who it is, a bad knee or hammy is going to have an effect.

06-29-2006, 06:31 PM	#54
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart our current rankings: QB: 18 RB: 5 WR: 6 Pass D: 4 Run D: 6 looks good (and accurate) to me. I had us 7th at WR, and 4-6 in RB (do you want to count denver's system? etc) I think our run D will be better than 6 this year, but last year holdman let a ton of 40+ yarders run by him, so it messed up the averages. Pass D seems about right, we've got 4 solid starters at DB and the DL has 2 studs and 2 average+ players. The bears and bucs have pass D systems though, and deserve the #1 and #2 spots (our D is based more on run blitzing).

06-29-2006, 06:39 PM	#55
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart mcnair has played alright hurt... brady seems like he might be able to, but no QB is going to be 100% and there's a huge swath of injuries you can have to be considered 'hurt' some of which just aren't as bad. I don't believe favre plays well hurt though, and he plays terribly when he tries to carry a bad team.

06-29-2006, 09:42 PM	#59
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart i wanna say 6th..but i think that is the voting...i think they are doing the run D tomorrow.... __________________ Vacancy

06-29-2006, 11:00 PM	#60
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: The Ultimate NFL Depth Chart The way I see it, the ESPN UDC rating has us as tied for the second best team in the league right now. If point totals are given corresponding to each rating, the Panthers are tops with 21 points (4+9+7+1). The Seahawks and the Redskins each have 25. In our division, the Giants have 39, the Cowboys have 60, and the Eagles are at 83 points. These totals are all pending the "Run defense ranking". __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

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