Coaching Staff update

[CultBrennan59]

McCardell is one of those NFL Whores whose likeable, he's been on about everytime, and everyone when their done with him talk about how much they loved him

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Coaches have to start somewhere, so why not McCardell who was a pro's pro at WR during his playing days? His lack of direct experience doesn't bother me all that much. Like some have said, we seem to have a nice mix on experience on the staff.

Agreed. McCardell is a high-character guy who played the game at a high level. He was a very polished WR for a long time. Clearly he enjoys teaching now that he can no longer play. I like the hire a lot actually.

Hey, it's not like we hired a head coach who had never been anything but a quarterback's coach.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. McCardell is a high-character guy who played the game at a high level. He was a very polished WR for a long time. Clearly he enjoys teaching now that he can no longer play. I like the hire a lot actually.

Hey, it's not like we hired a head coach who had never been anything but a quarterback's coach.

That's funny.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

McCardell is one of those NFL Whores whose likeable, he's been on about everytime, and everyone when their done with him talk about how much they loved him

OH I SEE, so thats how it is? If a player plays for a bunch of teams then he's a whore but if a coach bounces around it's like "WOO HOO, he's the man!" Stupid double standards.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. McCardell is a high-character guy who played the game at a high level. He was a very polished WR for a long time. Clearly he enjoys teaching now that he can no longer play. I like the hire a lot actually.

Hey, it's not like we hired a head coach who had never been anything but a quarterback's coach.

What I think I like best about McCardell coming in is he played for a long time and obviously had to change his game over time to harness experience running routes/creating separation over pure physical ability (as a younger WR). He should be a wealth of knowledge for our younger guys...I like this move more and more.

...oh yeah and he's NOT Stan Hixon

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

McCardell is one of those NFL Whores whose likeable, he's been on about everytime, and everyone when their done with him talk about how much they loved him

McCardell keeps coming back to Washington. So, in the worst case, he's OUR whore.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

McCardell keeps coming back to Washington. So, in the worst case, he's OUR whore.

So if we keep coming back to the Warpath, we are his site's whores? Snyder's whores? LOL. :cool-smil

[CRedskinsRule]

From the DCPSR site, here is the whole coaching staff. I added their wikipedia link if they had one. I know each one has been discussed at the time it was announced, but what about as a whole staff. Who are you guys most excited about, who worries you the most?

HEAD COACH.............Mike Shanahan
OFFENSIVE COORD....Kyle Shanahan
OFFENSIVE LINE........Chris Foerster
RUNNING BACKS........Bobby Turner
WIDE RECEIVERS.......Keenan McCardell
TIGHT ENDS...............Jon Embree
QUARTERBACKS.........Matt LaFleur
OFFEN ASSISTANT......Sean McVey
DEFENSIVE COORD.....Jim Haslett
SECONDARY...............Bob Slowick
SAFETIES...................Steven Jackson
LINEBACKERS.............Lou Spanos
DEFENSIVE LINE.........Jacob Burney
SPECIAL TEAMS..........Danny Smith
DEFENSIVE ASST........Kirk Olivadotti

Offensively, I am really excited to see KS in charge of our offense. His numbers at Houston are great, and I think coming into the NFC East he will bring us back to a level of respectability we haven't seen in a long time.
Defensively, if Lou Spanos can bring that AFC North/Pittsburgh linebacker play to the Skins that would be Excellent.

My concerns would be Foerster as the line coach, and the Slowick/Jackson defensive backfield set up.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So if we keep coming back to the Warpath, we are his site's whores? Snyder's whores? LOL. :cool-smil

We are Matty's whores. He is our pigskin pimp

[MTK]

Solid staff all around. Good mix of experience and youth. I honestly don't have any major concerns right now, I'd rather wait to see how they come together before I judge where the strengths/weaknesses are. I will say one thing, I love how this current staff looks on paper compared to what we had under Zorn.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

HEAD COACH.............Mike Shanahan - Significant upgrade over Zorn.

OFFENSIVE COORD....Kyle Shanahan - Significant upgrade. Best OC we've had in a long long time.

OFFENSIVE LINE........Chris Foerster - Definitely a significant downgrade from Buges. He appears to have been our 3rd or 4th choice for the position. His lines have never had that great of success to my knowledge.

RUNNING BACKS........Bobby Turner - Very solid hire. Definite upgrade.

WIDE RECEIVERS.......Keenan McCardell - Why? He's unproven. he's replacing one of the worst assistant coaches on our former staff, but who's to say he's an upgrade over Hixon? I hope he was hired because Shanahan really felt he was the best man for the job, and not because he's all we could get. considering how long it took to fill the position, i'm not optomistic about our receivers this year.

TIGHT ENDS...............Jon Embree - Meh.

QUARTERBACKS.........Matt LaFleur - I was hopeful Meidt would get the job, but LaFleur has experience with Shanny and he shares the name of Sawyer's alter ego on Lost, so i'll give this move a thumbs up.

OFFEN ASSISTANT......Sean McVey - Who?

DEFENSIVE COORD.....Jim Haslett - Hate the hire. Of all the rumored replacements to Blache, he was the worst in my opinion. he's never had continued success as a DC, but perhaps he was able to convince Shanahan that he never was given the proper personnel.

SECONDARY...............Bob Slowick - We all knew he was coming. I'd have rather kept Grey, but that might not have been a realistic option.

SAFETIES...................Steven Jackson - why do we have a secondary coach and a safeties coach again?

LINEBACKERS.............Lou Spanos - love it, especially if we're switching to a 3-4. if we're sticking with a 4-3, then i'd rather have not demoted Oli.

DEFENSIVE LINE.........Jacob Burney - An upgrade for sure

SPECIAL TEAMS..........Danny Smith - very pleased he was retained

DEFENSIVE ASST........Kirk Olivadotti - very very glad we were able to retain him on staff.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

HEAD COACH.............Mike Shanahan - Significant upgrade over Zorn.

OFFENSIVE COORD....Kyle Shanahan - Significant upgrade. Best OC we've had in a long long time.

OFFENSIVE LINE........Chris Foerster - Definitely a significant downgrade from Buges. He appears to have been our 3rd or 4th choice for the position. His lines have never had that great of success to my knowledge.

RUNNING BACKS........Bobby Turner - Very solid hire. Definite upgrade.

WIDE RECEIVERS.......Keenan McCardell - Why? He's unproven. he's replacing one of the worst assistant coaches on our former staff, but who's to say he's an upgrade over Hixon? I hope he was hired because Shanahan really felt he was the best man for the job, and not because he's all we could get. considering how long it took to fill the position, i'm not optomistic about our receivers this year.

TIGHT ENDS...............Jon Embree - Meh.

QUARTERBACKS.........Matt LaFleur - I was hopeful Meidt would get the job, but LaFleur has experience with Shanny and he shares the name of Sawyer's alter ego on Lost, so i'll give this move a thumbs up.

OFFEN ASSISTANT......Sean McVey - Who?

DEFENSIVE COORD.....Jim Haslett - Hate the hire. Of all the rumored replacements to Blache, he was the worst in my opinion. he's never had continued success as a DC, but perhaps he was able to convince Shanahan that he never was given the proper personnel.

SECONDARY...............Bob Slowick - We all knew he was coming. I'd have rather kept Grey, but that might not have been a realistic option.

SAFETIES...................Steven Jackson - why do we have a secondary coach and a safeties coach again?

LINEBACKERS.............Lou Spanos - love it, especially if we're switching to a 3-4. if we're sticking with a 4-3, then i'd rather have not demoted Oli.

DEFENSIVE LINE.........Jacob Burney - An upgrade for sure

SPECIAL TEAMS..........Danny Smith - very pleased he was retained

DEFENSIVE ASST........Kirk Olivadotti - very very glad we were able to retain him on staff.

So much for the "wait and see" attitude.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

OH I SEE, so thats how it is? If a player plays for a bunch of teams then he's a whore but if a coach bounces around it's like "WOO HOO, he's the man!" Stupid double standards.

I think the issue with McCardell is we drafted him and he seemed a bust. Browns pick him up and he does ok. He wanted more money and he ended up in Tampa. After the SB year he wanted more money to play which they didn't want to part with so he ended up in San Diego. He had a pretty good career in San Diego.

Bouncing around with him is not an issue for me. It's the fact he has no coaching expierence. Most coach's with no expierence become assistants first.

But your right. My other concern was our OL coach being in several places. If he was any good wouldn't the team find a way to keep him? Hopefully as other have said this won't be an issue and all he's doing is teaching technique and Shanahan can get them moving.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

HEAD COACH.............Mike Shanahan - Significant upgrade over Zorn.

OFFENSIVE COORD....Kyle Shanahan - Significant upgrade. Best OC we've had in a long long time.

OFFENSIVE LINE........Chris Foerster - Definitely a significant downgrade from Buges. He appears to have been our 3rd or 4th choice for the position. His lines have never had that great of success to my knowledge.

RUNNING BACKS........Bobby Turner - Very solid hire. Definite upgrade.

WIDE RECEIVERS.......Keenan McCardell - Why? He's unproven. he's replacing one of the worst assistant coaches on our former staff, but who's to say he's an upgrade over Hixon? I hope he was hired because Shanahan really felt he was the best man for the job, and not because he's all we could get. considering how long it took to fill the position, i'm not optomistic about our receivers this year.

TIGHT ENDS...............Jon Embree - Meh.

QUARTERBACKS.........Matt LaFleur - I was hopeful Meidt would get the job, but LaFleur has experience with Shanny and he shares the name of Sawyer's alter ego on Lost, so i'll give this move a thumbs up.

OFFEN ASSISTANT......Sean McVey - Who?

DEFENSIVE COORD.....Jim Haslett - Hate the hire. Of all the rumored replacements to Blache, he was the worst in my opinion. he's never had continued success as a DC, but perhaps he was able to convince Shanahan that he never was given the proper personnel.

SECONDARY...............Bob Slowick - We all knew he was coming. I'd have rather kept Grey, but that might not have been a realistic option.

SAFETIES...................Steven Jackson - why do we have a secondary coach and a safeties coach again?

LINEBACKERS.............Lou Spanos - love it, especially if we're switching to a 3-4. if we're sticking with a 4-3, then i'd rather have not demoted Oli.

DEFENSIVE LINE.........Jacob Burney - An upgrade for sure

SPECIAL TEAMS..........Danny Smith - very pleased he was retained

DEFENSIVE ASST........Kirk Olivadotti - very very glad we were able to retain him on staff.

Buges meant a great deal to this organization over the years. But the last few years his lines were not good and a lack of talent is just part of that equation. His units in recent years appeared to be poorly coached.

It's not certain that Foerster will be better than Buges but it's not certain that he will be worse, either.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So much for the "wait and see" attitude.

you're response to my post makes no sense. any time the team makes any sort of move, people are going to have opinions on it. do you feel we should all "wait and see" without having any feelings about any moves the skins ever make? if she skins signed terrell owens to a 8 year, 100MM contract, should we not have an opinion and just "wait and see" what happens? if the skins traded a 7th round pick to indy for peyton manning, should we surpress our excitement and take a "wait and see approach?"

if we all waited 2 years after everything the skins did to express an opinion, this would be a very very boring place, dont you agree?