2012 QB Prospects (Part 2)

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm torn on this one...I really don't want a QB project. I want us to get a guy that hopefully can come in and contribute like Dalton has this past season.

I'm curious as to why you consider Tannehill be a 'project' or a 'raw' QB?
Inexperience?

He'll have more snaps played then Cam Newton and Mark Sanchez both of whom were day 1 starters.

In fact Tanneyhill is more of a direct system fit for this team then any QB in the draft.

And to a certain extent every QB is a project.

[30gut]

The more I watch of Weeden he could be this years Andy Dalton.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm curious as to why you consider Tannehill be a 'project' or a 'raw' QB?
Inexperience?

He'll have more snaps played then Cam Newton and Mark Sanchez both of whom were day 1 starters.

In fact Tanneyhill is more of a direct system fit for this team then a QB in the draft.

And to a certain extent every QB is a project.

Cam Newton's physical skills are off the charts though. Like I said if Tannehill is the guy they really want then he better be great because if Shanny passes on Matt Barkley and Robert Griffin III with both of them on the board it will take all my energy not to snipe Shanny COD style because I think they both will be special.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The more I watch of Weeden he could be this years Andy Dalton.

The more I watch of Weeden the more I think he could be this years Chris Weinke.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's 59 and can't win any games?

...took the words right out of my mouth.

[skinsfaninok]

Everyone is talking about Andy daltons impact on the bengals well numbers wise he's not even close to cam newton, difference is Cincy has a crazy good D this year and a easy schedule

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Everyone is talking about Andy daltons impact on the bengals well numbers wise he's not even close to cam newton, difference is Cincy has a crazy good D this year and a easy schedule

10 straight games with a TD pass as a rookie is still pretty sick.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Everyone is talking about Andy daltons impact on the bengals well numbers wise he's not even close to cam newton, difference is Cincy has a crazy good D this year and a easy schedule

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...12/andy-dalton

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...994/cam-newton

Since when is playing the Steelers and Ravens twice and the Texans who are the current #1 AFC seed a easy schedule?

Also we all know that Dalton is nowhere near the athlete that Newton is, then again Dalton doesn't have Steve Smith either.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

The more I watch of Weeden the more I think he could be this years Chris Weinke.

hahaha

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm curious as to why you consider Tannehill be a 'project' or a 'raw' QB?
Inexperience?

He'll have more snaps played then Cam Newton and Mark Sanchez both of whom were day 1 starters.

In fact Tanneyhill is more of a direct system fit for this team then a QB in the draft.

And to a certain extent every QB is a project.

Until Smootsmack mentioned the Skins' interest in Tannehill and others here listed him as a top prospect, I hadn't looked at much film on him. After I read those things here, I did. And I liked him a lot.

I'd agree that he's a bit raw, but he's already further along in a number of ways than some of the other prospects. For example, in the offense he ran at TAMU he took snaps under center as well as from the shotgun and, to me, he looked good doing both. I like his footwork and his pocket awareness. RGIII, as good as he is, worked exclusively from the gun and has to learn to work from under center.

Speaking of RGIII, why isn't Tannehill as celebrated as RGIII as an athlete? Tannehill is just as effective as a runner as RGIII. Heck, Tannehill runs like a deer! He reminds me of Jake Locker when he runs - and I like Locker a lot!

Tannehill is simply excellent when rolling out. He shows good footwork and great athleticism and he is a very accurate passer whether he is rolling right or left. He also is an accurate passer when throwing out of the pocket or gun to the middle of the field.

On the other hand, for some reason, he throws a terrible out pattern. Also, even though TAMU didn't seem to throw deep much, the deep passes I saw him throw weren't very good. He has a strong arm so I assume he can improve on those throws.

Yes, he's going to have a steep learning curve as a pro and the team that picks him probably won't be able to throw him into the starting lineup right away but I think that will be the case for nearly all of the other QB prospects, including RGIII. That is, except for Luck and Barkley. Andrew Luck could start right away but he will probably be sitting behind Peyton Manning and Matt Barkley will probably take his lumps as a rookie starter.

Now, some team may pick RGIII high enough that they feel obligated to start him from Day 1 but, if that happens, I think RGIII will struggle as a rookie. Eventually, RGIII should be a very good pro QB. I think the same could be said for Tannehill but with just a bit less certainty.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Cam Newton worked from the gun exclusively in college too.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Andy Dalton Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

Cam Newton Stats - Carolina Panthers - ESPN

Since when is playing the Steelers and Ravens twice and the Texans who are the current #1 AFC seed a easy schedule?

Also we all know that Dalton is nowhere near the athlete that Newton is, then again Dalton doesn't have Steve Smith either.

Dalton has AJ Smith though. Still, I think they are both good QBs, and I wouldn't mind having either of them here with us. No need to downplay one to praise the other and viceversa.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Dalton has AJ Smith though. Still, I think they are both good QBs, and I wouldn't mind having either of them here with us. No need to downplay one to praise the other and viceversa.

Wasn't trying to just saying passing wise the are just as good as one another with Dalton getting a slight edge right now. Cam has that extra element though. BTW AJ Smith? lol

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13983/aj-green

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2622/steve-smith

You can't say that AJ Green is the better player between the two right now though.

[skinsfaninok]

AJ Green is LEGIT, but so is Dalton

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Wasn't trying to just saying passing wise the are just as good as one another with Dalton getting a slight edge right now. Cam has that extra element though. BTW AJ Smith? lol

A.J. Green Stats - Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN

Steve Smith Stats, News, Videos, Highlights, Pictures, Bio - Carolina Panthers - ESPN

You can't say that AJ Green is the better player between the two right now though.

Yeah, you didn't know he can play wideout and be a crappy GM? LOL.

I don't think AJ Green is better than Steve Smith, simply pointing out that Dalton has a good target to throw to, just like Cam does.