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Re: Late Round Gems
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Risers and Fallers from East-West Shrine practices - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com Good FS Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech Physically imposing at 6-3, 232 pounds, Chancellor looks the part of a potential starting free safety. There will be inevitable comparisons to former Hokies safety Aaron Rouse, a third-round pick of the Green Bay Packers and current starter for the Giants. Chancellor was willing to be physical this week and showed the range to close on out routes. OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed. East-West Shrine Game - Big Ten Blog - ESPN Not so Good Ohio State OL Jim Cordle: "OL Jim Cordle was very slow off the ball, heavy footed and lacked the initial quickness off the ball needed to make the block. Against Virginia's Nate Collins, he didn't get out of his stance quick enough, had his head down and Collins exploded out, used his hands and beat Cordle to the side."
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Re: Late Round Gems
Why go from slow too slower Colt has a better future then Tebow IMO.
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Quarterbacks – West Virginia's Jarrett Brown has put on a show this week. His quick release reminds me a lot of Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback Michael Vick's. He snaps the ball in his delivery with terrific velocity and a tight spiral. While he may need some development to become capable of starting in the NFL, Brown certainly has the talent needed to do so. You could definitely argue that Brown is a better pocket passer than his former teammate Pat White was when he entered the draft last year. With team's becoming more athletic in the NFL, Brown should find a home in the middle of the draft. |
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I would get Stull from Pitt before I would draft Brown. Too many great under the radar QBs that we could pick up with killer stats and good moves to boot. Sheehan, Lefevour, Pike, Kafka, even Canfield from Oregon St would be better prospects than Brown. Brown is talented for sure, but the true gunslingers are the ones that make the most impact in the NFL. |
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BTW-here's another tidbit on Brown: Draft Countdown's Senior Bowl Coverage - 1/27/10 South Practice Report • Today West Virginia’s Jarrett Brown had the best performance by a quarterback that I’ve seen so far this week. That isn’t necessarily saying a whole lot though… Once again Brown showcased his strong arm and while he tends to make his receivers work for the catch he was solid in 7-on-7’s. Brown also displayed nice touch and accuracy on a fade round. Brown is still raw but he should be a nice mid-round pick for someone as a developmental signal caller. |
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01/28/2010 - SENIOR BOWL RISER: QB Jarrett Brown, West Virginia: For all of the hype that Tim Tebow received this week, Brown was consistently the South's best quarterback. He had only one season as the starter after serving behind Pat White, but has the arm-strength and accuracy worthy of development. - Rob Rang, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com
01/27/2010 - Senior Bowl, Tuesday: With all of the talk about Tebow, some people may not have noticed that the ball flat-out jumps off the hand of West Virginia quarterback Jarrett Brown. His accuracy was not deadly, but he gave tight ends running down the seams and receivers on the sideline every opportunity to make a play. Brown is still working on getting the ball from under center and is stiff in his drop. His solid arm and ability as a runner, however, bodes well for his future as a playmaker at the next level. - Rob Rang and Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com Jarrett Brown, , NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com Scout.com: Senior Bowl Q&A: QB Jarrett Brown By Ed Thompson Scout.com Senior NFL Analyst Posted Jan 29, 2010 | More While Florida's Tim Tebow had the majority of the media huddled around him at the end of Wednesday's South Team practice, Scout.com's Ed Thompson focused his attention on the quarterback who was delivering the best results on the field during the practice sessions--West Virginia's Jarrett Brown. Ed Thompson: Jarrett, I've been very impressed by your pocket presence this week. Jarrett Brown: I've always had a knack for it. I was always a pure passer. Some people think I've always been a running quarterback, but I didn't get my speed until I got to college. I feel comfortable under the center and dropping back and just sitting in the pocket. Thompson: You putting some zip on your passes and you look like you're getting your timing down with this all-star cast of receivers. Brown: Yeah, you know that first day, my head was kind of spinning a bit. But now I'm getting to know the plays inside out and getting great anticipation on the routes. So I'm able to throw a nicer and more relaxed ball. Thompson: As you're meeting with these NFL teams, what is it that you want them to know about you as a person? Brown: I really just want them to know who I am, just the real me, Jarrett Brown. Thompson: Tell me about your family and the role they've played in helping you get here today. Brown: My family is everything, I wouldn't be here without my family. I'm the youngest in the family. I grew up in West Palm Beach and had all these great guys who pointed me in the right direction. I just didn't want to fail them. Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images Thompson: I know that all the fans and the media are going nuts over Tim Tebow, but you've been the best quarterback out here so far this week. I like your poise, the energy level you're bringing to your team, and your execution. Brown: Thank you. Thompson: Talk a bit about working with Pat White until he moved on to the Miami Dolphins last year. Have you talked to him at all about what you'll be experiencing in the coming months? Brown: I haven't talked to him about the Senior Bowl, but I have talked to him about his experience with the Dolphins organization. This is a great coaching staff. They kind of remind me of the West Virginia staff. They are great people, the kind of people I want to work with. Pat came back to school and started showing me some things. And sure enough, the coach here said something to me about one of those things, so it was great that Pat had already told me. Thompson: I know you've met with plenty of NFL teams, but who are just a few of the ones you've talked to so far? I'm sure the fans back in West Virginia would like to hear about that. Brown: Mostly all of them. I really appreciate the support from |
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T- Ed Wang, 6' 5" 309. 4.95 (low 4.89). Virginia Tech All ACC 2nd Team. Projected 5th rd. Good against power rush, struggled with inside and finesse moves. Slow feet, didn't look bad in the game outside of the sack he gave up. Don't like the cut blocks, he missed on a couple. G - Mitch Petrus, 6' 3", 315. 5.09 (low 4.96). Arkansas 1st Team All SEC (coaches). Projected 4th rd. Bad footwork, off-balance, head down on a few plays. I'd pass on him. We already have Rinehart who is a better, bigger, stronger version of Petrus. C - Eric Olsen, 6' 4", 305. 5.26 (low 5.12), Notre Dame Will be in Senior Bowl. 1 sack in 450 Pass Att, 50 NCAA starts. Projected 5th rd Good techician. Wasn't holding up too well in the 1-on-1 in Senior Bowl practice against a strong bull rush. Looked good in the game though. Held up well against Cody & Williams. If Tennant is gone, Olsen would be a good addition in the 5th or later. RB - Joique Bell, 6' 1", 223. 4.53 (low 4.43) 40 time, Wayne St. Will be in the NFL Combine and Senior Bowl. Wayne St. RB Joique Bell named Division II player of the year - ESPN Had a couple nice runs. Looked good in pass pro during practices. Fumbled once and bobbled the ball on a hard hit by Mays. His 40-time will be everyting for him at the combine. I wouldn't risk higher than a 5th on him.
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His name is John SKELTON. I dont know if he'd be a gem. He's got size yes and if that's all we are measuring him by then yes he's tall lol. But hes a Spread offense quarterback and u wanna talk about playin against inferior competition. He played Division 1-A, not a good measuring stick to what he could actually do. although this quote about him was AWESOME "He stands 6-5 and packs a solid 258 pounds onto his country-strong frame. He has a Howitzer masquerading as a right arm" LMAO
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We know that it's Skelton haha
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Yeah, we don't need another Vick in the NFL. How many of these option/athletic/running star Qbs have won a SB? None. Randal Cunningham was great to watch, but didn't win jack at Philly, ditto with McNabb(at least he went to a SB), and now Vick. You want a mobile guy that can get out of trouble, but not necessarily a QB/RB type. The only SB winning QB that was a really good runner was Steve Young. |
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We don't need another Vick in the NFL? Huh?
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I say this because you've basically been downing him ever since the first time i mentioned him. I've said and other posters have said that Brown is not a 'running QB' but you persist in refering to him as such. I wonder what your opinion is of Colt McCoy? |
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This guy looks like he could help on ST's and either play OLB or stand in for Orakpo when he lines up at DE. Could be a good pick for the 5-7 rounds.
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He isn't a running QB, but one of those guys that will hesitate as to whether he should take off with it. That is what killed Vick in Atlanta in my opinion. ALso when was the last time a Mountaineer made good in the NFL? Major Harris was a real talent also at WVU, didn't do much in the pros though. |
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When was the last time a player from school X had success in the NFL? ^^This isn't exactly a strong arguement. Like i said before for whatever reason you don't like Brown even though we were initially talking about him as a late round prospect i.e. a prospect that obviously needs development. Wether you like it or not its most likely a moot point now as he's no longer a late round prospect because he's played his was into the mid-round with a strong showing during Senior Bowl week. Apparently they aren't seeing the same things your seeing. Anyway, no need to go back and forth with your spurious claims against Brown. Suffice it say you don't like him as a prospect because you view him as a run first QB. Answer this question and let just drop it? Cool? ![]() What's your opinion of Colt McCoy? |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Re: Late Round Gems
We need some linemen!
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