Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I read J. Reids RI post this morning about the Eli trade. Four picks including 2 first rounders! If the Rams are trying to get that, I don't see the new Allen regime going for it.

Yeah neither do I. The cost to move up is very steep, unless Shanahan is convinced that Bradford is the 2nd coming of Elway, I just don't see it happening.

I'm betting Shanahan is pretty confident in his ability to coach up a 2nd rounder into a quality QB in his system.

[skinsfan69]

Pro days are the most overrated thing during the scouting process. JaMarcus Russsell had a great pro day. It really doesn't mean anything cause QB's are throwing against air w/out a rush, w/out an NFL defensive coordinator switching up coverages after the ball is snapped. Any professional QB ( including back ups) should look good in a pro day atmosphere. They should at least make it a 7 on 7 type of thing.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I read J. Reids RI post this morning about the Eli trade. Four picks including 2 first rounders! If the Rams are trying to get that, I don't see the new Allen regime going for it.

If Shanny views him as a franchise QB then that price is not to high.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

John Clayton brought this contract thing up the other day. He thinks though, and I tend to agree, that even with the tenuous ownership situation in St. Louis they will still pay above market and ensure that they get Bradford. The only thing that could keep it from happening is that apparently Spags is still not totally bought into the idea. But I think he gets overruled.

Spags isn't sold knowing how bad they need a QB??? Re-enforces my points on Bradford. Hopefully Spags does get overruled and the Rams overpay for a player who will not meet up to the hype/expectations. We need to draft Clausen at #4 and be done with it.

[MTK]

I think the thing with Spags is he knows he needs to win now to save his job. Tough to do with a rookie QB in there.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think the thing with Spags is he knows he needs to win now to save his job. Tough to do with a rookie QB in there.

With the Rams it'd be tough to win with Peyton in there. LOL

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think the thing with Spags is he knows he needs to win now to save his job. Tough to do with a rookie QB in there.

That's what i don't get...Spags and Devaney will basically be sacraficing themselves by picking Bradford. That roster is not going to win with a rookie QB. They will look more like last years Lions then last years Jets. And with a new owner coming in who will be itching to put his own people in place I can't see how those two survive to reep the rewards of the Bradford pick.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Oh well i guess well have to go Okung!

Don't count your chickens..... I hear he was injured also... it was either in high school or his first year in college. Can't take him either.

My point being plenty of players come out of the draft having been injured sometime in their past. If Bradford was done and could play anymore he wouldn't be still facing the draft. Doctors would have told him he can't play anymore. Hell his shoulder doctor works for the Skins so I'm sure the Skins would know if he's worth drafting or not. Maybe they know and are throwing up front to get Clausen so the Rams don't? I don't know. I know just a few things.... one being we need a more accurate QB. OL, LB, FS, RB, and one more WR to fill ARE's spot.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Spags isn't sold knowing how bad they need a QB??? Re-enforces my points on Bradford. Hopefully Spags does get overruled and the Rams overpay for a player who will not meet up to the hype/expectations. We need to draft Clausen at #4 and be done with it.

Well to reiterate.... I've heard the team doesn't want the high cost of a #1 pick, but keep in mind almost every team that gets to this spot is trying to move out of it saying the same thing or trying to get more picks cause they have more then one need.

I've also heard Spags job is on the line this year and he's not sold about having a Rookie QB taking over the team. Shanahan yes cause he's signed a 5yr deal, Andy Reid cause he is Philli and they won't part with him, but I heard the Rams were not happy with Spags season last year and are giving him this year to fix their problems or he's gone. Would any of you chance your career on a drafted QB who might have issues in the NFL cause he has not been tested? or throwing your whole season away and career on one good hit by a DE if Bradford gets reinjured?

I think Bradford will be healthy and ready to go. I think he'll do fine. But I'm not the one in the hot seat putting my eggs in one basket hoping it all works out at a high expense. All he really needs is a proven QB who is safe with the ball and an OL to protect them. Then throw in a few DL and he's doing great. If he can do all that plus pick up an extra pick or two and have a half decent year, then I'm sure he stays and could be developing a young QB while doing so.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Spags isn't sold knowing how bad they need a QB??? Re-enforces my points on Bradford. Hopefully Spags does get overruled and the Rams overpay for a player who will not meet up to the hype/expectations. We need to draft Clausen at #4 and be done with it.

I'm not sure the notion a defensive minded guy like Spags is rumored to be fond of the safe, solid choice in McCoy necessarily reinforces your point.

[SBXVII]

This is intersting news. Bradford won't sign a pre draft contract?

PFT: Bradford won't sign a pre-draft contract [Redskins mentioned] - EXTREMESKINS.com

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not sure the notion a defensive minded guy like Spags is rumored to be fond of the safe, solid choice in McCoy necessarily reinforces your point.

Defensive minded HCs often go with better talent on O, thinking they can "coach up" any limitations in defensive personnel.

EDIT: Actually it does reinforce my stance on Bradford, I've said all along that I anticipate he'll be a solid QB, but will take some time to get up to speed. I don't think he's worth the #4 overall, much less the #1 overall pick. I've said if Clausen was gone and the choice for us was Bradford or Okung, I go with Okung (safe, solid choice).

Of course, the rumor on Spags has no relation to my stance on Clausen.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

This is intersting news. Bradford won't sign a pre draft contract?

PFT: Bradford won't sign a pre-draft contract [Redskins mentioned] - EXTREMESKINS.com

Why do I get the feeling that Bradford will hold out just about anywhere he signs. It'd be interesting to see how our FO would deal with him given that they have been very careful with contracts, although if they are interested in him so much maybe they'll break the bank.

I hope that if we were to draft Bradford, the FO would find a good deal for Campbell and get us more o-line help. I just hate the thought of a first-round QB playing behind our pathetic line.

[IrMitchell]

Yeah, I feel for this kid. So young and so much potential, but the Rams will just not do well with him. As far as Spag not taking him because of his job being on the line. Don't kid yourselves guys they need a QB more than anything and unless we trade Campbell for him (Don't do it!) they'll be taking Sam Bradford on April 22nd.
Let's just take Jimmy Clausen and become the next big threat in the playoff race next year or the year after. I'm so excited to see the things in here post Jimmy Clausens work out day. Remember when everyone was comparing Clausen and Bradford back in January saying Clausen was the better QB at the next level? Where has that gone, the kid hasn't thrown since and nothing has changed except Bradford shoulder being "healed"?
Mike and Bruce have nothing to worry about and I really don't think we do either. As our roster stands we are way beyond a 4-12 team and let's just hope that can get things rolling.

[Ruhskins]

From ESPN Rumors (just more speculation I guess):

"The Washington Redskins have remained quiet in player acquisition this offseason relative to past seasons, perhaps due in part to the massive front office and coaching restructuring that took place. Still, there's been some chatter that they are a sleeping giant when it comes to possibly making some power moves involving the draft when we get closer to April 22.

But if they stay at No. 4 overall, a new report suggests that they have their Top 3 picks already lined up. Rick Maese of the Washington Post has word from league sources that the team has placed a high value on Sam Bradford, Jimmy Clausen and Russell Okung, and Maese writes that "it'd be a surprise if the Redskins select anyone outside of these three." These three choices are no surprise either, given that the Big Two (Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy) play the same position as Albert Haynesworth. Given what we heard following Bradford's pro day, it'll likely come down to Okung and Clausen for the 'Skins.

Update: In another possible example of pre-draft misdirection, the Redskins will host Tennessee safety Eric Berry on Wednesday, per a tweet from Jason Reid of the Washington Post."