CJ28 Doesn't like COPS. Says "It's hard being young, black and rich"

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Frankly, yes.

Crime happens in lower income areas because the people don't make much money. If I'm making $150,000 a year there's a lot more to lose if I'm caught selling drugs. There's also less to gain; the person making $150,000 doesn't need drug money to make ends meet.

The people who turn to selling drugs are often lower-income and often uneducated.

There will always be exceptions, but if we're talking about the most accurate way to profile somebody, it's based on income levels, not race or gender.

Completely agree. While there is a racial component to this, I don't think we should be quick to racialize (I know, not a word) everything.

Truth is, we all have prejudices. At times we lean toward them more or less depending on our surroundings and the information we've gathered over the years. I'm not justifying the actions of either party in this situation, but it is what it is.

I've just come to learn that not all things that appear to be racist is racism, sometimes it's just plain old everyday ignorance and you just have to leave it there and keep it moving.

That said, I think black athletes do live under more of a public microscope related to their comings and goings. Why is that? I think that's another can of worms all by itself.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Couldn't possibly disagree with that more. If there's a drug dealer in my neighborhood, or even if there's SUSPICION of a drug dealer in my neighborhood, it will depress the value of my home.

Neighborhoods with drug dealers are generally considered undesirable places to live. Imagine that.

If the guy next door to me likes to play loud music, I'll ask him to stop or call the cops. If people in my neighborhood drive too fast up and down the street, I'll ask them to slow down. If I suspect someone is dealing drugs or running a prostitution ring, you better believe I'd call the cops.

When I sell my house I'd like it to go for 10% more than I bought it, not 10% less.

100% agree. Not only that but now adays people don't even want to go speak with their neighbors about small issues like the music being to loud or the speeding up and down the road because they are afraid of being verbally attacked. which quite often happens now. So most people call the police because they just don't want to be the one singled out as the complaintant and have their house egged or vandalized because it pissed off someone that they complained.

[12thMan]

And let me just go on the record saying if there's a group of young brothers constantly coming and going next door to me, you damn skippy I think they're up to no good. It's just a matter of time before I'm calling Johnny Law. Probably quicker than I would if it were a bunch of white dudes wearing polo shorts and flip flops. Sorry kids, 12th has a tinge of racism in him. So much for my aspirations of becoming a Mod.

[saden1]

Never assume anything...if your neighbor does assumes the worst about you do your best to make their lives miserable.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

And let me just go on the record saying if there's a group of young brothers constantly coming and going next door to me, you damn skippy I think they're up to no good. It's just a matter of time before I'm calling Johnny Law. Probably quicker than I would if it were a bunch of white dudes wearing polo shorts and flip flops. Sorry kids, 12th has a tinge of racism in him. So much for my aspirations of becoming a Mod.

Wait, aren't you black?

[12thMan]

Dude, I'm 12thMan.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Wait, aren't you black?

Yeah but he wears polos and flip flops.

By the way, fist bump to that look, 12th. Just don't pop the collar.

[SBXVII]

He's a Dude, dressed up like a Dude, pretending to be another Dude.

[12thMan]

I'll leave the popped collar to Saden.

[Dirtbag59]

I'll tell you whats tough. Being young, white, and rich. Everytime I get pulled over the cops let me go. How am I suppose to build my street cred without an arrest record? It's like they pull me over and say "sorry I thought you were latino/middle eastern."

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'll leave the popped collar to Saden.

I dont pop, I walk with a swagga limp caused by my third leg.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Honestly, drugs effect all walks of life. Rich or poor it doesn't matter. There are rich people out there who are living beyond their means as well as poor people. and race does not matter either. Part of the problem is the economy and availability of jobs. The economy has tanked and people are/were losing their jobs. Either they are using drugs to blank out the issue or they are selling in order to support their families.

But, we don't have to assumed that the nosey neighbor thought drugs were being sold. What if the neighbor thought the owner was in some kind of trouble? especially if there have been home invasions in the area recently. or thought someone had broken into the neighbors house? especially if they had not seen the owner.

I just don't like seeing people automatically jumping to the conclusion that all police officers are bad or that everyone profiles when in reality the police were called to the house because of a neighbor, and we don't know what the neighbor had seen to make them want to call the police.

I have a lot of police friends and can tell you that depending on what the "suspicous activity" was yes the cops will sit back and try to observe what is going on before making contact. But as I just stated we don't know what the neighbor used as "suspicous activity" and if the police sit back and don't go to the residence then "if" a crime is being committed then they might lose out on having a suspect.

Everyone is hung up on the suspicous activity wording, in order to keep a record on every call the police department has to file whatever the behavior is into some sort of catagory. A lot of behavior can fall under suspicous activity; an unknown vehicle seen several times in your area, a high volume of traffic coming and going from a residence, screaming from a neighbors residence, a man half naked walking down the street. Purchase a scanner and listen to all the BS calls that police have to respond to; one that ticks me off is "a man walking down the road in camoflage carrying a gun", during hunting season. Hello? but because the police got the call they have to look into it. God forbid they don't look into it and a crime occurred, how would that sound in the paper the next day? Police were called out and failed to show up or investigate.

The reasons you give are legitimate reasons for police to knock on my door. That I have black friends that come over a lot and that they drive Escaldes is not a legitimate reason. Do you see the difference?
If Peyton Manning's wife had her girlfriends over and they all drove Esclaldes, would the neighbors be scared,locking their doors and calling the cops? Quick get the kids inside! No.
But you fill those Esclaldes with young men of color and suddenly the Dudley do rights neighbors have their chair at the window and become spies.

When Police and neighbors start treating one sector of society differently the other because of stereotypes, skin color or socio-econmic grouping then we all lose.

[saden1]

How to get back at your douchebag neighbor Sopranos:

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dirtbag59

i'll tell you whats tough. Being young, white, and rich. Everytime i get pulled over the cops let me go. How am i suppose to build my street cred without an arrest record? It's like they pull me over and say "sorry i thought you were latino/middle eastern."

lollll

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The reasons you give are legitimate reasons for police to knock on my door. That I have black friends that come over a lot and that they drive Escaldes is not a legitimate reason. Do you see the difference?
If Peyton Manning's wife had her girlfriends over and they all drove Esclaldes, would the neighbors be scared,locking their doors and calling the cops? Quick get the kids inside! No.
But you fill those Esclaldes with young men of color and suddenly the Dudley do rights neighbors have their chair at the window and become spies.

When Police and neighbors start treating one sector of society differently the other because of stereotypes, skin color or socio-econmic grouping then we all lose.

If they walked into the house holding up their pants I'd call the cops. When was the last time you read about middle aged white women running drugs. It happens but not very often if it did MTV would have videos of them riding around calling guys their ho and flashing money.