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Old 12-29-2020, 10:40 AM   #121
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Dolphins at 3 overall seems like they may be willing to trade down. They seem to like holding lots of picks but do already have 2 1st rounders and at least 2 2nd rounders from the Tunsil/Texans trade.

Jets may trade down if they decide to stay w Darnold.

Bengals dont need a QB.
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To many future events to know what our choices will be but there seems to be some options. I like the idea of drafting BYU QB Zach Wilson but I think our D does have a window that would be closing in 2 years (have to make decisions on Allen/Payne/Sweat/Matty I).

our 2020 D + our 2016 offense = super bowl

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9ers -- glad you mentioned them. I read they may move on from Jimmy G. hes another option for us. Not a world beater but I do believe he could be decent in a Turner offense. Quick read and throw on time.
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:43 AM   #122
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Feel bad for you my man if George was a childhood favorite. I get the arm thing but he had a personality of a wet mop and once famously said that leadership was overrated from the QB position.

Doesn't this situation sound familiar? A new coach handcuffed by the owner's dumb move at QB?
He really was man because I did not get into football until I was in the 7th grade, i had almost no interest in it as a young kid. Jeff George was one of the guys who introduced me to the sport, through hearing about his exploits through a good friend of mine. So he was one of the first players I "knew". So as I grew to love football so much, I think nostalgia has put some blinders on me about George. I even have an Oakland Raiders #3 George jersey that my friend gave me. I know his career in the NFL for the most part was a flop. In hindsight he was too talented to be a backup QB, but not good enough to be a dependable starter, IMO. There were times in his career where he was good enough to make you wonder.
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:45 AM   #123
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Dolphins at 3 overall seems like they may be willing to trade down. They seem to like holding lots of picks but do already have 2 1st rounders and at least 2 2nd rounders from the Tunsil/Texans trade.

Jets may trade down if they decide to stay w Darnold.

Bengals dont need a QB.
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To many future events to know what our choices will be but there seems to be some options. I like the idea of drafting BYU QB Zach Wilson but I think our D does have a window that would be closing in 2 years (have to make decisions on Allen/Payne/Sweat/Matty I).

our 2020 D + our 2016 offense = super bowl

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9ers -- glad you mentioned them. I read they may move on from Jimmy G. hes another option for us. Not a world beater but I do believe he could be decent in a Turner offense. Quick read and throw on time.
This.. I'm on the phone w/ Miami. Do not want Jimmy G. Duel threat guy is a must.
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:49 AM   #124
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I don’t want Jimmy GQ. He’s never ever healthy
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:55 AM   #125
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Draft a guy and play him. That is the way to go. QB on rookie deal. See Russell Wilson, Mahomes and now Josh Allen. Try and get in a 3 year window where you aren't paying your QB big dollars.

We won't be able to afford Stafford, plus he is starting to get banged up so I would pass for those two reasons.

The league is changing. Guys like Matt Ryan will be extinct in 5 years. You need a duel threat guy.

I'm trying to trade up in the draft. Offer Payne or Allen and the 1st rounder. I'd go all in for the kid at BYU.
This!! I would only bring in a vet if his cap number is equal to Alex Smith’s current contract . We have too many key contracts coming up and don’t want to waste that money on another over the hill QB. Stafford would be my only choice unless Garapolo iis available, not a Matt Ryan fan. Don’t want another Donovan McNabb.
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Old 12-29-2020, 10:57 AM   #126
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In the minority here, but we have chased qb's for 70 years - see stat about 1st round qb's posted earlier. Tell the scouting department to search high and low for the best 3rd rounder(given our 2nd round curse) and pull the trigger in that round. I have more faith in our 3rd - 5th round scouts to beat the bushes. The problem with Dak / Stafford is cap, health and father time. Rodgers was picked after Jason Campbell, Lamar Jackson was late first, there is a substantial list of qb's after rd 1, pick 18 that have been good to great. That should have been priority 1, 2 and 3 for our scouts this year.
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Old 12-29-2020, 11:25 AM   #127
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I really like the JP finaly take on Alex Smith...the injury is a reality check. It’s a reminder that 37...leg issues...lingering issues...

You have to move on
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Old 12-29-2020, 11:40 AM   #128
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As of now the Dolphins have the 3rd pick (Texans pick) if there is a QB that the scouts think can start next year, then I pull the trigger. I would offer this year's first and a 3rd, plus either one of these DL's Matt I.,Payne or Settle. As much as I love these guys, you have to sacrifice one of them. Allen, Payne's and Settle contracts are coming up, we have proven we can play without Matt I. Also throw in Moreau.
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I'm fine with Smith returning as the backup but he can't be in the mix as the starter.
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I'm fine with Smith returning as the backup but he can't be in the mix as the starter.
With that cap number? I’m not paying all that for a back up. He needs to be making south of 10 mil per
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Old 12-29-2020, 11:53 AM   #131
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With that cap number? I’m not paying all that for a back up. He needs to be making south of 10 mil per
Even with him on the books we have plenty of room. Not sure that you really need to do anything with his #.
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As of now the Dolphins have the 3rd pick (Texans pick) if there is a QB that the scouts think can start next year, then I pull the trigger. I would offer this year's first and a 3rd, plus either one of these DL's Matt I.,Payne or Settle. As much as I love these guys, you have to sacrifice one of them. Allen, Payne's and Settle contracts are coming up, we have proven we can play without Matt I. Also throw in Moreau.
It's gonna take 2021 & 2022 1's
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Old 12-29-2020, 11:59 AM   #133
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24M cap hit next year if we keep Alex

10.8M dead money if we cut him (we would "save" 13.2M)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/

Cutting Haskins doesnt effect our cap position bc his contract was guaranteed anyway.
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Alex Smith looked like he was regressing in the Steelers game, then injury to start the SF game. Who knows, maybe a few weeks off and Alex is good to go for week 17 and beyond and plays well. "calf fatigue" probably wont ever go away im guessing, i dont think we could rely on him as QB1 to start 2021 and 24M cap hit is too much for QB2 since we have Kyle Allen as our QB2.

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Lots of options to find a QB1 though. IM happy.
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Old 12-29-2020, 12:03 PM   #134
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It's gonna take 2021 & 2022 1's
Any of those lineman equal a 1st. most likely Payne.
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24M cap hit next year if we keep Alex

10.8M dead money if we cut him (we would "save" 13.2M)
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/
Not paying him 24 million next year. Hopefully he retires or he will need to be cut.
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