Fitzmagic Thread

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Scalper

C- grade signing. He is a 38 year old QB with a career losing record and a very low career QB rating. I understand the logic, better than trading draft picks or signing a similar above average but not great QB to a long term deal, and conventional but incorrect thinking is you need a dependable guy to bridge until you find a long-term answer. So we now have two stopgaps on roster, Fitz and Allen, who are NOT long term answers. If we draft a QB and cut Allen, this move looks a lot better, but we should be looking for long-term solutions. If we go into season with Heinecke, Fitz, and Allen at QB that is atrocious as only one QB is potential long term answer. What keeps this grade from being a D or F is that there are very limited options in free agency. Fitz is not leading us to a SB, we should be looking for QBs with potential to be long-term franchise SB winners. The proper move is to draft 1 QB and go with Heinecke, Allen, rookie, or ideally 2 rookies and Heinecke, and use $10M to resign Allen and others long term. Is our goal to win the participation trophy of an early playoff exit, or find a franchise QB that can win the big one? This is the problem with coach as GM, short term thinking. This is NOT the move Smith would have made if still GM. He would have drafted QBs.

So we have now spent $28M on Scherff and Fitz, while Allen isn't extended. F-ing brilliant. A competent FO would have locked up Allen first.

The single most important thing a GM or FO can do is get QB right. Our FO has not as of yet. We also read that Fitz is now the de facto starter. Sure there will be competition, but we need to be favoring younger players who could be long-term answer. I would much rather go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he isn't the answer, or go 7-9 with Heinecke and know he is the answer, than waste a year with a 38 year old QB who has never won a SB and is never going to win one for us. What may happen is that we start Fitz and never get a good enough look at Heinecke to see if he is the future, meaning next year we're right back in the exact same spot. This is a case study in why you don't give coach GM powers. All we are doing is sacrificing long-term for the short. It would actually be smarter to start Heinecke all year and if he isn't the answer you draft top 5 and get a franchise QB.

If Heinicke is the guy then he will beat out Fitz. If he can't beat out Fitz then he clearly isn't the guy.

Also we still may be in play for drafting someone. I think this move just adds another durable guy w/ experience who can be a backup or starter. Obviously he isn't the long term solution.

The off season isn't over yet as we will see what happens in the draft.

Really not sure why anyone dislikes this move.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Scalper

Favre won one SB on stacked teams. He lost countless playoff games with horrible picks. The problem is Fitz isn't as talented as Favre.

There is Brady and then the rest when it comes to playoff wins. Favre is 6th all time with 13 wins. You make it sound like he was a failure in the postseason.
Also my man almost every super bowl winning quarterback ever had a stacked team. Bradshaw, Stauback, Aikman, all three of our super bowl winners, Kurt Warner, Russ, Brady, I mean the list goes on and on. It is pretty rare that a quarterback wins a superbowl without a stacked team. Extremely rare. Eli Manning, Payton Manning, i could just copy and paste the entire list of super bowl winners actually.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Scalper

Favre won one SB on stacked teams. He lost countless playoff games with horrible picks. The problem is Fitz isn't as talented as Favre.

Who is saying he is?

Alls I'm saying is Fitzpatrick is inconsistent, he's gonna have games where he looks really good, and games where he looks really bad. It's been the trend his entire career.

[Monkeydad]

I'm happy with this move.

1. He knows how to win and in his last year possibly, he'll be hungry.
2. Great cost:talent. Value move!
3. Plenty of cap room to build around him.
4. No need to trade up to get a QB. We can still draft one later if we see one we like for the future.
5. As mentioned, it saves us from the likes of Trubisky, Dalton, Mariota, Darnold. There's no "what if we can save this guy's career" angle with Fitz, we know exactly what he is and what we'll get.

[MTK]

Who are we even expecting him to mentor? Allen? Heinicke? None of these guys are legit long term options as the starter.

Barring someone unexpectedly slipping to us in the draft I think our QB room is set.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Who are we even expecting him to mentor? Allen? Heinicke? None of these guys are legit long term options as the starter.

Barring someone unexpectedly slipping to us in the draft I think our QB room is set.

Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.

I don't see us taking another QB that high, later rounds or undrafted maybe.

We need day 1 starters in rounds 1-3.

[skinsfan69]

I do not want a QB that wants or needs a mentor. You know who needed that? Haskins. Do not want. Sure you like to have a vet that younger guys can learn the ropes from. But that's as far as it goes. At the end of the day it's cut throat competition.

The Mahomes example is a weak one cause he would have been great regardless. Sure he learned from Smith how to go about his business and what not. But what would Smith actually teach him? How to check the ball down 9 out of 10 times?

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Actually, I think Fitz is kinda the perfect guy for Heinicke to be in a qb room together. Then go out in the draft and bring in a top 2nd or 3rd round qb and thats a solid qb room.

so which QB is drafted in the mid rounds? Newman? Mond?

[MTK]

Here's what Tua said about him for those worried about his mentoring skills

Tagovailoa: "Fitz is just a wholesome person. The way he is out on the field is the same way he is off the field. I don't think there's really a distinct change in who he is. I mean, what you see out there is really who Fitz is. He's a coach. He's a mentor on and off the field. But he's also a very, very family-oriented person. Very loving. Very caring for guys. And he's funny, too. He's really funny."

[Monkeydad]

He might play with a chip on his shoulder too. Look out. He's fearless, as opposed to reckless with the football like Haskins.

It's going to be a fun year.










https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/s...-felt/2450740/


Though the switch was bound to happen at some point, not many expected it to take place with the team coming off back-to-back blowout wins and riding an unexpected 3-3 record into the bye week. Perhaps no one was more caught off guard by the news than Fitzpatrick himself.

"I was shocked by it. It definitely caught me off guard,” Fitzpatrick said Wednesday. “It was a hard thing for me to hear yesterday, just kind of digesting the news. My heart just hurt all day. It was heartbreaking for me."

"This profession is interesting in that the guy that fired me -- I basically got fired yesterday and then my day of work today consisted of me in Zoom meetings listening to the guy that fired me, and then [was] locked in a spaced-out room with my replacement for four hours today. So there aren't a whole lot of jobs that are like that," Fitzpatrick said.

[Monkeydad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RZvQ2Ms_Sg

[skinsfaninok]

He can still be a teacher to the young guys, football is like any other job.. You can learn from guys without even asking them Q's

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He can still be a teacher to the young guys, football is like any other job.. You can learn from guys without even asking them Q's

Honestly, look at Heinicke's playing style. It really does look a lot like Fitzpatrick's. This could be part of the plan or at least a big benefit to the new guy.


Also...

[MTK]

One thing's for sure this is going to be a fun ass season. Fitz is going to push the ball down the field and let his guys make plays. No dink and dunk BS. Now let's get another WR and TE and we're ready to cook.