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Old 01-11-2021, 11:49 AM   #1
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WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Their is nothing more important than who the WFT chooses for it QB contest in 2021.

One thing is CERTAIN:

To draft or obtain a top QB Free Agent this offseason, this team will have to expend SERIOUS draft capital. We will need to TRADE UP in the DRAFT to get an elite QB. There is no other low-hanging fruit, EXCEPT TAYLOR HEINICKE.

1. What QB should we go for in the off season?
2. How much draft capital must we spend to get it ?

Weíre NOT going to get STAFFORD or WATSON without a trade. Weíre NOT going to get an elite QB in the draft without trading UP.

3. What should we do with Heinicke, Allen and Smith?

The QB winners in the playoffs have either:

EXCELLENT MOBILITY. and/or
GREAT PASSER.

Thatís what we need!

Letís hear what you have to say!

MY DREAM - Go ALL-IN for STAFFORD or WATSON. Offer our 1st round pick this year and next yearís 2nd and a couple of next years picks.


Let Smith retire, heís way too expensive as a backup QB. Pay HEINICKE whatever it takes to keep him and let him compete as the starter OR the backup. Allen can compete for the third QB spot.

THIS franchise has sucked for 2 decades because we havenít had a franchise QB. Time to fix that and get a premiere QB THIS offseason.
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:56 PM   #2
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Honestly, given our spot in the draft I agree. While they would be big trades, getting someone with Stafford's pedigree would be an immediate upgrade to contender, but more so Watson. Give either a team with an established D and building more weapons around them will make us competitive from the get go. Unless we get Brady or Wilson type lucky in the lower rounds of the draft, anyone we pick up is going to be a development project so we'll need an at least capable vet next season as a minimum. Heinicke is still something of an unknown, but neither Allen or Smith are that guy.

I'd offer the Texans our next 2 ones, probably a 3 & 4 from '22 and someone like Matty I to finish the deal. If the Texans don't want to know (or want something daft like 3 x 1's plus some 2's), then I'd go with a lesser offer to Detroit. Stafford with maybe a reworked 5 year deal would give us a nice window to compete immediately.

But for me it all hangs on who can Ron deal with. I think he actually did well with Newton in Carolina, who I never saw as a great passer, with a run heavy out of the pocket passing offense. Says to me, Watson will be more his kind of guy than Stafford.
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Old 01-11-2021, 01:27 PM   #3
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First, everyone needs to give an opinion with Alex Smith.

Obvious to me heís done. He canít be depended on simply because of his health. Itís a great story and Iíd like to see him in the org/staff, but we need to move on and get some cap relief.

Heineken should be brought back, he performed better than at QB Saturday night than anyone else on the roster all year. His mobility and knowledge of system along with his game and half performance earns him a return in a backup capacity.

After these 2 issues are put to bed, I think you review veteran options at QB and you cast the net far and wide to weight options...call Andrew Luck, y not? Call Houston about Watson, why the fuck not? Call Detroit about Stafford, absolutely!

Call Cam and tell him we arenít interested, yup, for sure. Iíll list what I donít want, Cam..Alex...Trubisky...mariota...Derek Carr...

Next I think you then look at the QB class coming out and see if BPA is a QB at 19. Possibly someone you like later in the draft? I wonít be opposed to grab at draft QB who could sit and learn.

I think a fall back option is Kyle Allen. Coming off an injury. I donít know how much interest he will garner, but I think he will be in the mix someway.
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Alex Smith is done

Call Detroit asap on Stafford, if they say no, call ATL for Matt Ryan and if they say no then you have to be realistic on Free Agent options.

Mariota is the top FA available

Dak won't be going anywhere

WATSON IS A PIPE DREAM

Fitzmagic is 40.

I'd love to draft Wilson or Lance at 19 but that's prob a dream as well.
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Alex Smith is done

Call Detroit asap on Stafford, if they say no, call ATL for Matt Ryan and if they say no then you have to be realistic on Free Agent options.

Mariota is the top FA available

Dak won't be going anywhere

WATSON IS A PIPE DREAM

Fitzmagic is 40.

I'd love to draft Wilson or Lance at 19 but that's prob a dream as well.
Honestly, I think Kyle Allen/Heinicke could perform as well as Mariota at a much lower number. While Fitz is great, i donít think he is a fit here. Ron wants someone more mobile.
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First, everyone needs to give an opinion with Alex Smith.

Obvious to me heís done. He canít be depended on simply because of his health. Itís a great story and Iíd like to see him in the org/staff, but we need to move on and get some cap relief.

Heineken should be brought back, he performed better than at QB Saturday night than anyone else on the roster all year. His mobility and knowledge of system along with his game and half performance earns him a return in a backup capacity.

After these 2 issues are put to bed, I think you review veteran options at QB and you cast the net far and wide to weight options...call Andrew Luck, y not? Call Houston about Watson, why the fuck not? Call Detroit about Stafford, absolutely!

Call Cam and tell him we arenít interested, yup, for sure. Iíll list what I donít want, Cam..Alex...Trubisky...mariota...Derek CarrÖ

Next I think you then look at the QB class coming out and see if BPA is a QB at 19. Possibly someone you like later in the draft? I wonít be opposed to grab at draft QB who could sit and learn.

I think a fall back option is Kyle Allen. Coming off an injury. I donít know how much interest he will garner, but I think he will be in the mix someway.
This is pretty much how I feel. Alex is done. Bring back Heinicke. I'm not interested in bringing back Kyle Allen. Bring in a Veteran starting caliber QB for the right price, and draft a QB.

NO CAM.
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Honestly, I think Kyle Allen/Heinicke could perform as well as Mariota at a much lower number. While Fitz is great, i donít think he is a fit here. Ron wants someone more mobile.
Another name to look out for is Derek Carr if he's released, but I'd rather go elsewhere
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Another name to look out for is Derek Carr if he's released, but I'd rather go elsewhere
I just think Kyle Allen/henike combo would be just as effective
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Fitzmagic is 40.
Nope, he just turned 38. I admit he's not my first choice, but he's an FA that can come in and start, while offering the ability to win now. But he'd be a bridge to a promising rookie low round pick (a la Cousins) or a guy we go after in '22.
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Oh and FUCK NO to Cam Newton, he's washed
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I really think Alex Smith retires. He beat the odds just stepping back on the field. Going 5-1 as our starter was simply amazing. Mission accomplished. He's got nothing left to prove and he can walk away (no pun intended) from the game on his own terms now.

I think this quote from him shows exactly which way he's leaning in terms of retiring...

"To me it was more about the attempt and the journey than the outcome. More about that mindset of putting myself out there and really attempting this."
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I wonder if a 2nd and a 3rd would be enough to get Stafford?
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I wonder if a 2nd and a 3rd would be enough to get Stafford?
Probably not with multiple teams likely to be interested
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I wonder if a 2nd and a 3rd would be enough to get Stafford?
No way in hell.
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Smith - Thank you for your service, your front office position awaits.
Watson - Our front office mines gems, bet the farm!
Stafford - Hell yes.
Dak - Ainít hitting the market but Iíd hit it if he did.
Heinicke - Our big time FA strike out ace in the hole future starter.
MariNOta - Self explanatory.
Ryan - 💦⬆️
Fitzmagic - Iíd hit it for the right price.
Derek Carr - Serviceable stop gap paired with a drafted rookie.
Cam NOPEton - Fuhgettaboutit.
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