Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Warpath > Washington Football > Locker Room Main Forum


WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-18-2021, 09:47 AM   #151
SkinzWin
Playmaker
 
SkinzWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 3,524
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warthog View Post
Watson may be available. The question is whether the team will go ďall inĒ with a monster trade package to get him. The bidding will be high, but itís similar to Brees coming to New Orleans. He propels your team to the top for the rest of his career. Heís worth WHATEVER the cost.

First, except for Stafford, I do not think the WFT will go for ANY QB over 30. Rivera is trying to set his QB for the next 5 years, not finding some old guy with a season or two left (that means Alex Smith is out also).

Resigning Heinicke is important. Heís a GREAT #2 and he can compete for the #1 if the QB the WFT picks is not ready for prime time.

Alex Smith is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE as a backup. He may opt in for ďone more seasonĒ but the Bucs showed how to beat him - blitz him early and often, forcing him to beat you with his feet - which will be better next season, but NOT to the level needed in the NFL today. You need a QB who can run 40-70 yds a game and Smith doesnít have that anymore.

Allen is also not the future.

The new GM and Rivera may simply draft the best QB left at #19 and let him compete with Taylor Heinickle.

Other draft picks will be OL, WR, TE with FA going toward a monster WR to compliment MacLaurin, LB ( maybe more than one), OL.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As much as I want to trade for Watson I think the realistic feasibility of it is non-existent. Media is reporting that multiple teams have been calling the Texans to inquire about his availability even though no one in the Texans organization have publicly stated heís available for trade. With the #19 pick and no young QB to offer in a trade scenario, we just arenít going to have the same trade capital to compete with other teams unless we mortgage the distant future (and thatís not going to happen). We will wind up getting a mid tier FA veteran QB for a modest price tag (just like Ronís M.O. was this past off season).
__________________
Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever...

Team Heinicke Fan Club
punch it in - CEO
SkinzWin - President
FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations
ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment
Meks - Director of Marketing
SkinzWin is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 01-18-2021, 10:35 AM   #152
SCRedskinsFan
Impact Rookie
 
SCRedskinsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Pawleys Island SC
Posts: 642
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinzWin View Post
As much as I want to trade for Watson I think the realistic feasibility of it is non-existent. Media is reporting that multiple teams have been calling the Texans to inquire about his availability even though no one in the Texans organization have publicly stated heís available for trade. With the #19 pick and no young QB to offer in a trade scenario, we just arenít going to have the same trade capital to compete with other teams unless we mortgage the distant future (and thatís not going to happen). We will wind up getting a mid tier FA veteran QB for a modest price tag (just like Ronís M.O. was this past off season).
Donít forget RR took a swing for the fence trying to sign Amari Cooper. So much for his MO in the past off season... Iím thinking that a blockbuster deal for a feature QB with at least 5 years of prime time left is not automatically off the table.
SCRedskinsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 10:42 AM   #153
AnonEmouse
The Starter
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,324
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan View Post
Donít forget RR took a swing for the fence trying to sign Amari Cooper. So much for his MO in the past off season... Iím thinking that a blockbuster deal for a feature QB with at least 5 years of prime time left is not automatically off the table.
That was a FA signing, not a trade, and we had the cap to do it. We were not faced with giving up a large part of our draft to sign Cooper.

I'm also inclined to think part of why RR did that was to pressure the Cowboys to offer him a bigger deal than they wanted to.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 11:08 AM   #154
SunnySide
The Starter
 
SunnySide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,148
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

23M .. is reportedly what we offered in guaranteed money vs cowboys 60M guaranteed money.

https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/3/17/...rs-100-million

If true .. we never really tried to sign Cooper.
SunnySide is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 11:16 AM   #155
Monkeydad
Living Legend
 
Monkeydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: PA
Posts: 17,358
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsnut View Post
Wondering if it would be worth offering 2 of our dline for Watson. We have the depth to handle that. Perhaps we even keep our 1st that way. Thoughts?
Hell no to 2. That's the strength of our team.

If we keep this defense intact and fill the couple of weak points, the D alone will put us in contention every year no matter how crappy the offense is.


The price to get Watson is going to be counterproductive, I'd rather get Stafford and an elite WR instead of Watson if we're moving on from Alex.
__________________
Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster
Monkeydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 12:36 PM   #156
SkinzWin
Playmaker
 
SkinzWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 3,524
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeydad View Post
Hell no to 2. That's the strength of our team.

If we keep this defense intact and fill the couple of weak points, the D alone will put us in contention every year no matter how crappy the offense is.


The price to get Watson is going to be counterproductive, I'd rather get Stafford and an elite WR instead of Watson if we're moving on from Alex.
I agree as enticing was Watson sounds, I would be just as happy with Stafford and being able to keep more draft capital.
__________________
Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever...

Team Heinicke Fan Club
punch it in - CEO
SkinzWin - President
FrenchSkin - VP of Global Operations
ODUsmitty - Director of Cheerleader Fulfillment
Meks - Director of Marketing
SkinzWin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 01:23 PM   #157
skinsfaninok
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
skinsfaninok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Buffalo NY
Posts: 30,397
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monkeydad View Post
Hell no to 2. That's the strength of our team.

If we keep this defense intact and fill the couple of weak points, the D alone will put us in contention every year no matter how crappy the offense is.


The price to get Watson is going to be counterproductive, I'd rather get Stafford and an elite WR instead of Watson if we're moving on from Alex.
The Bears said that too and look what happened..

Offense over defense every day
__________________
ďMediocre people donít like high achievers, and high achievers donít like mediocre people.Ē
― Nick Saban
skinsfaninok is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 04:14 PM   #158
AnonEmouse
The Starter
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,324
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
The Bears said that too and look what happened..

Offense over defense every day
The Bears problem is they are/were crap at assessing good QB's. 2017 wasn't a great draft for QB, but they took Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson (now that would be a great double act!). If they had taken either of them, with that defense and the weapons they have, they'd likely have been going deep into the playoffs the last 2-3 years.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 05:43 PM   #159
sdskinsfan2001
Sponge-worthy
 
sdskinsfan2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 10,684
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonEmouse View Post
The Bears problem is they are/were crap at assessing good QB's. 2017 wasn't a great draft for QB, but they took Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson (now that would be a great double act!). If they had taken either of them, with that defense and the weapons they have, they'd likely have been going deep into the playoffs the last 2-3 years.
Man, being a Bears fan is gonna be torture for the next 10 or so years, with that info just sitting there. And didn't they trade up to get him?
__________________
Cause you know, he would step across the line. Habitually. He's a habitual line stepper.
sdskinsfan2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 06:34 PM   #160
AnonEmouse
The Starter
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,324
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001 View Post
Man, being a Bears fan is gonna be torture for the next 10 or so years, with that info just sitting there. And didn't they trade up to get him?
Well as they haven't won a SB in 35 years, what's another 10...
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2021, 06:37 PM   #161
AnonEmouse
The Starter
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,324
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

RG3 is available again.

Hmm, nah.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 09:28 AM   #162
Warthog
The Starter
 
Warthog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Doylestown, PA
Posts: 1,253
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

So are most of you saying Stafford over Watson? Watson is younger and has more upside. Getting either QB jets us into 10+ games won per season. Our defense went from the cellar in 2019 to a #4 rated defense this year. We can move even HIGHER with the addition of a couple of FA this off-season (LB, DB) and resign Allen and Payne. Sweat & Young will be even better next year!

Itís the offense that needs to improve. We draft heavily for the left side of the OL (OT, OG); we bring on a very good or better FA - WR burner to play oppose MacLaurin. We hire a FA TE. With WATSON or STAFFORD this offense goes from the bottom into the top 10 instantly.

We offer our #1 this season AND the #1 AND #2 next year. Itís going to take that much to get either of these elite QB. We also have Heinicke as a GREAT backup QB.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait.

Flyboy.

"Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"
Warthog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 11:54 AM   #163
AnonEmouse
The Starter
 
AnonEmouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,324
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

If the Dolphins want to pull the trigger on the suggested trade of picks plus Tua, they have greater capitol, as do other teams closer to the #1 pick. I have to think that we'd have to offer more than 2 1's and a 2, not least because our draft position would likely be worse than 19th next year too.
AnonEmouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 12:02 PM   #164
Ruhskins
Living Legend
 
Ruhskins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 20,483
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warthog View Post
So are most of you saying Stafford over Watson? Watson is younger and has more upside. Getting either QB jets us into 10+ games won per season. Our defense went from the cellar in 2019 to a #4 rated defense this year. We can move even HIGHER with the addition of a couple of FA this off-season (LB, DB) and resign Allen and Payne. Sweat & Young will be even better next year!

Itís the offense that needs to improve. We draft heavily for the left side of the OL (OT, OG); we bring on a very good or better FA - WR burner to play oppose MacLaurin. We hire a FA TE. With WATSON or STAFFORD this offense goes from the bottom into the top 10 instantly.

We offer our #1 this season AND the #1 AND #2 next year. Itís going to take that much to get either of these elite QB. We also have Heinicke as a GREAT backup QB.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think Stafford is the QB that is more likely to be available. Who knows what will happen with Watson.
__________________
R.I.P. #21
Ruhskins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2021, 12:12 PM   #165
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 27,803
Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

Watson isnít coming here available if not. We canít put together an attractive enough package versus Miami or Jets. Also think teams like San Fran or Carolina would put together better deals.
__________________
2020 NFC East Champions

ďThe game plan is what the game plan will beĒ
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site has no official affiliation with the Washington Football Team or the NFL, we're just a bunch of fans talking football
Page generated in 0.35300 seconds with 10 queries