WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[skinsfaninok]

Watson knows Houston will suck for a few more years, they have no $$ and no draft picks. I'd want out too

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Regardless of the situation with Cousins or Trent, Bruce Allen was stubborn and refused to acknowledge that it was better for the team to trade both players and he didn't.

Or had he done the sensible thing and negotiated in good faith with both of them then we might have avoided the mess we've been in since signing Smith (not Smith's fault of course). Had we still had Cousins and TW in the locker room we might not have been SB contenders, but we'd likely be in playoff contention every year.

Houston actually seem to be headed in the direction we were when we should have resigned Cousins. At least they released Watt without any acrimony unlike BA and TW.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Lol I love how a 24 year old signing a 150 million+ deal is dumb. What 24 year old is turning that down?

Watson was going to be wealthy regardless. You can't sign a mega deal and then turn around in less than a year and want out cause mgt doesn't consult w/ you.

If he truly wanted out and he saw warning signs then do what Cousins did.

Now Wilson is crying. Again he didn't have to sign a deal w/ Seattle. He could have played until his deal ended and then went to one year deals until it was too expensive for the team to keep him.

Wilson and Watson to me are cry babies. It ain't your job to pick players. Not your job to tell the owner what to do. Russ should give back some of his $ so Seattle can sign Trent if he wants a linemen so bad.

Cousins is brilliant and played the system to a tee. He held the team hostage. Not sure why other QB's don't do the same thing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Watson knows Houston will suck for a few more years, they have no $$ and no draft picks. I'd want out too

They are in a bad spot but it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild.

[irish]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They are in a bad spot but it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild.

Agree. The days of a years long rebuild are over. Its a win now league and coaches better start winning in year two or else its on the the next best thing.

[skinsfaninok]

The expectation league-wide has been that Washington's starting QB for 2021 is not in the building. And when asking which teams have been most active in early QB carousel talks, Washington consistently comes up. Big next few weeks/months for WFT

Jeremy Fowler ESPN

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They are in a bad spot but it doesn't take 5 years to rebuild.

It does when you’re down several first and second round picks due to previous trades.

[skinsfaninok]

The Rams had a shitload of picks after RG3 and they never got good from those players. Houston could be really bad for a while. Watson wants to win


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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

It does when you’re down several first and second round picks due to previous trades.

Yeah, they are probably a minimum of two, maybe even three years away from being a contender in that division with Watson at QB.

The Jags will be in contention to win that division before Houston, unless they bite the bullet and try to trade him for a haul. Problem is, I don't see anyone giving up what they are asking.

The Jets would be dumb to do it. They are currently set up very nicely with all their draft picks (including #2) and the 2nd most cap space. That could be a very quick turnaround up there if they draft well, and fill some holes with pending free agents.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Regardless of the situation with Cousins or Trent, Bruce Allen was stubborn and refused to acknowledge that it was better for the team to trade both players and he didn't.

Houston may have a star QB, but have no draft capital or cap space to build around Watson.

They are either going to have a bad 2021 season with no draft capital this year and Watson sitting out during the season OR have a bad 2021 season with extra first round picks in 2022 and 2023. I'd rather have the latter.

Agreed. This is why it's better to just deal a disgruntled player than call his bluff and have to put up with it until he does get dealt.

We could've gotten way more than a 3rd and a 5th for Trent and a third for Kirk if he had just acknowledged the inevitable and put them on the block. Not only does it make us look bad, in regards to Kirk here we are 3 seasons after he left and we've ran through umpteen qb's looking for his replacement.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by irish

You forgot to mention signing Alex Smith to a big $ extension so BA could prove he can sign QBs to extensions. IMO that big $ extension was the cherry on $hit sundae.

The extension when trading for a proven qb is the status quo in the NFL. The days are gone where you trade for a quality qb and make him play out the rest of his deal before signing a new one (unless the guy just recently got a new long term deal in the last 2 years like Watson). A good qb is not going to agree to a trade with under 2 years left on his deal unless the trading team agrees to an extension too. Not to mention if you're the team trading for him, why would you not want to sign him to an extension? If you didn't believe in the guy or had doubts, why would you give up serious draft capital for them?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yeah, they are probably a minimum of two, maybe even three years away from being a contender in that division with

Never would be a better estimate with that horrible owner at the helm.

[Defensewins]

Nothing wrong with evaluating all of the available QB’s and talking to the teams to see what they would want for them. WFT’s front office would not be doing its job if it did not explore all avenues for improvement. But we do not have to make a desperate move. Jeremy Fowler’s quote is a flawed assumption. We are not one of the NFL teams that is devoid of QB talent.
I feel like the WFT is finally in a position where we are 5 to 6 players away from being a really good team. The NFL has quickly become a league of average teams. There are little to no super teams any more due to salary cap and free agency.

[skinsfaninok]

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Watson was going to be wealthy regardless. You can't sign a mega deal and then turn around in less than a year and want out cause mgt doesn't consult w/ you.

If he truly wanted out and he saw warning signs then do what Cousins did.

Now Wilson is crying. Again he didn't have to sign a deal w/ Seattle. He could have played until his deal ended and then went to one year deals until it was too expensive for the team to keep him.

Wilson and Watson to me are cry babies. It ain't your job to pick players. Not your job to tell the owner what to do. Russ should give back some of his $ so Seattle can sign Trent if he wants a linemen so bad.

Cousins is brilliant and played the system to a tee. He held the team hostage. Not sure why other QB's don't do the same thing.

1. Spot on about the HOLES like Wilson and Watson.
2. Most QBs can't play the system the way Cousins did because their teams have competent or at least non-moron owners and GMs, LOL. The franchise tag is supposed to serve owners and keep best players from hitting true FA, only THE DAN could allow it to be turned against ownership, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL. Epic duncery.
3. Let Wilson continue to get pummeled. Serves him right. Like all running QBs, he is losing a step as he ages. He sees the writing on the wall. Only a matter of time until he starts getting hit more and more and gets hurt badly. This is the fate of all running QBs without exception.