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Old 05-28-2021, 01:08 PM   #61
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Re: Washington Football Team Defense 2021

Can put Hurts above anyone in the division right now, he just hasn't proven anything especially from the pocket.

It's Dak, Fitz, Jones, and Hurts a distant 4th.
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Old 05-28-2021, 03:13 PM   #62
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My NFCE qb rankings:

1. Dak
2. Hurts - just for playmaking ability right now with his legs, he still needs work at throwing
3. Fitzmagic - he's consistently inconsistent. If he could be consistently above average he'd be #2 on this list.
4. Jones - he's obv. still a work in progress, but shouldn't be overlooked considering he's 4-0 against us.
If that criteria gets Hurts #2 from you, then Heinicke should be ranked above him.
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Old 05-28-2021, 03:55 PM   #63
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If that criteria gets Hurts #2 from you, then Heinicke should be ranked above him.
Heinicke is the #1 backup in the division!

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Old 05-28-2021, 04:46 PM   #64
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Can put Hurts above anyone in the division right now, he just hasn't proven anything especially from the pocket.

It's Dak, Fitz, Jones, and Hurts a distant 4th.
Concur - that is the right order for now.
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Old 05-30-2021, 07:20 AM   #65
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My NFCE qb rankings:

1. Dak
2. Hurts - just for playmaking ability right now with his legs, he still needs work at throwing
3. Fitzmagic - he's consistently inconsistent. If he could be consistently above average he'd be #2 on this list.
4. Jones - he's obv. still a work in progress, but shouldn't be overlooked considering he's 4-0 against us.
1. Dak
2. Fitz
3. Tranny Dimes
4. Heineken
5. Butt Hurts
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Old 05-30-2021, 04:33 PM   #66
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My NFCE qb rankings:

1. Dak
2. Hurts - just for playmaking ability right now with his legs, he still needs work at throwing
3. Fitzmagic - he's consistently inconsistent. If he could be consistently above average he'd be #2 on this list.
4. Jones - he's obv. still a work in progress, but shouldn't be overlooked considering he's 4-0 against us.
LOL!!!

He's 1-3, 52% completion percentage, 6 TDs, 4 INTs, 9 Fumbles, QBR = 41.

He might be #6 in the NFC E...
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:49 PM   #67
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LOL!!!

He's 1-3, 52% completion percentage, 6 TDs, 4 INTs, 9 Fumbles, QBR = 41.

He might be #6 in the NFC E...
Or lower.....he may improve, but I don’t see how it can be said he showed much of anything last year.
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Old 05-30-2021, 08:21 PM   #68
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LOL!!!

He's 1-3, 52% completion percentage, 6 TDs, 4 INTs, 9 Fumbles, QBR = 41.

He might be #6 in the NFC E...
I based it off the eyeball test, in the couple games of his I watched last season I thought he did good enough to keep the job for this year. I did say he needs work as a passer, obviously it's not there yet. But he can keep plays alive and make plays with his feet. That counts for something.

Fitzpatrick is just too inconsistent for me. No doubt he will make plays for us, show us things we haven't seen since Kirk, but he has never been able to be consistent with it. He's gonna wow us with a throw one minute, and the next throw a terrible pick. It's who he is.

Jones is Jones, I'd like to shit-talk him some more but dude's 4-0 against us. Record doesn't lie.
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Old 05-31-2021, 09:46 AM   #69
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Can put Hurts above anyone in the division right now, he just hasn't proven anything especially from the pocket.

It's Dak, Fitz, Jones, and Hurts a distant 4th.
I agree, FWIW. Dak is clearly #1 my mind. I expect Jones to close the gap on Fitz this season. Hurts has a lot of work to do as a capable NFL passer and I don't yet have a feel fo his ceiling.

I think our backup(s) give us a slight edge in the division as far as surviving an injury to our #1 QB.
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:41 AM   #70
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I agree, FWIW. Dak is clearly #1 my mind. I expect Jones to close the gap on Fitz this season. Hurts has a lot of work to do as a capable NFL passer and I don't yet have a feel fo his ceiling.

I think our backup(s) give us a slight edge in the division as far as surviving an injury to our #1 QB.

If the QB 1s went down in the NFCE, I think we’d see less of a drop off than the other teams - not that I’d want to see that.


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Old 05-31-2021, 04:39 PM   #71
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Re: Washington Football Team Defense 2021

Has that ever happened in any division ever? Can't find anything to confirm it or not.
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Old 05-31-2021, 05:40 PM   #72
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If the QB 1s went down in the NFCE, I think we’d see less of a drop off than the other teams - not that I’d want to see that.
Our depth, including at QB, is much stronger now than in seasons past.

It's nice to know a single injury shouldn't knock out an entire position for us.
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Old 05-31-2021, 08:22 PM   #73
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Re: Washington Football Team Defense 2021

https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/31/...g-to-get-scary

Idk about the quality of the opinion in the article, but Warren Sharp whose work serves as the foundation is on the cutting edge of analytics. The premise passes the eye test.
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Old 05-31-2021, 08:43 PM   #74
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https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/31/...g-to-get-scary

Idk about the quality of the opinion in the article, but Warren Sharp whose work serves as the foundation is on the cutting edge of analytics. The premise passes the eye test.
It’s nice to have folks with a plan.
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Old 06-01-2021, 04:35 AM   #75
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https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/5/31/...g-to-get-scary

Idk about the quality of the opinion in the article, but Warren Sharp whose work serves as the foundation is on the cutting edge of analytics. The premise passes the eye test.
I found the author's conclusion to be very exciting: "Looking at the raw numbers, it was pretty difficult to see how Washington’s defense could get much better from 2020 to 2021, but examining their offseason moves, it appears that Ron Rivera and Jack Del Rio believe they’ve found a pretty dramatic way to do just that - lock down the backside of the defense by bringing in the personnel to be far more aggressive in the secondary, which should have ripple effects throughout the rest of the defense. They now have the talent to move away from defense focused on 'containing the damage' to one that can actively work on inflicting it on opposing offenses."
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