WFT Free Agency

[sdskinsfan2001]

Hole created, hole filled. Besides missing his rookie year, he has been very durable. Always good to see.

Not too familiar with him. I remembered him from Houston after looking him up.

He's got good size.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Hole created, hole filled. Besides missing his rookie year, he has been very durable. Always good to see.

Not too familiar with him. I remembered him from Houston after looking him up.

He's got good size.

Love filling holes

Our new CB1 gonna feast...he never played with a dline in front of him like this

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Love filling holes

Our new CB1 gonna feast...he never played with a dline in front of him like this

Jelly or creme filling preference?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Jelly or creme filling preference?

When it comes to filling holes ya just gotta go creme.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

When it comes to filling holes ya just gotta go creme.

that's what she said

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

that's what she said

Never gets old

[Scalper]

B grade. First, not signing Darby was the right choice. I wouldn't have paid him $8M a year, much less $10M+. He is still a massive injury risk and he got toasted WAYYYYYYYYY too much last year against better teams. Remember all those receivers sprinting open through our secondary like it was a combine passing drill? Yes, LB and safety part of problem, but so was CB. FO got it right not bidding high for Darby. That being said, his departure leaves a gaping hole at CB, and honestly we could draft one first three rounds after this signing in a deep CB draft and still not be drowning in talent at position. Fuller is best as a slot CB. Hopefully we draft a 3rd starting caliber CB in draft and let Fuller play slot. Also, given that we now have $24M spent at CB, we really can't afford any more big signings so need to look to draft for one more solid CB.

I have always preferred true cover corners to press corners, ala Darrell Green. If you're going to rely on slower press corners, you need an Earl Thomas at FS (FS is still only position on roster we have NOTHING), and even then, such players often get beat in critical man situations (see Richard Sherman). Jackson was one of better CBs in FA, in what was admittedly an uninspiring CB class. He is a pure man cover corner with decent size and good speed. Most knowledgeable observers would say he is one of top-10 man cover corners in NFL. He is a guy you can put on #1 receivers. He probably signed here for short deal because teams not paying huge money in FA this year as much, especially given deep draft at CB, and figures he'll put up mind blowing stats behind our DL opposite Fuller and get one more big payday at 30 or 31. He is very slight of build as man corners often are, is not a thumper when tackling, is not durable, nor is he truly elite (though our DL should make him look much better), and price paid is fair. Not signing him to longer deal when he will be 30 and because of injury risk is smart. He is a pure cover guy who can stay with receivers step for step and has good instincts when ball in air. Some see Jackson as one of better CBs in FA and call this a great deal because we got one of better CBs available, but it is just a good deal because not many good CBs were/are available in FA. Top corners make $20M or so, and Jackson is now one of top-ten paid corners in NFL approximate, on lower end. This was a fair deal, neither an egregious overpay, nor a bargain. I like signing a better pure man corner for a few million a year more rather than signing a lesser player cheaper. We needed a true #1 CB and signed one. We now have 2 CBs making top-20 money at the position, they'd better perform like it. Better teams fill high-leverage positions with drafted players, you can't sign high-priced FAs at CB,LT,QB,WR,DE, etc. As of now, we have a drafted WR and DE, and big-money FAs at QB and CB. Hopefully we draft a CB, LT, etc. in draft. Overall, we paid a corner which is usually ranked top 15-25 in CBs in NFL, top-10 money at the position. That's free agency, you always overpay for better players, but we couldn't leave gaping hole at CB1. A solid B signing.

[Scalper]

0. Average first day early period of free agency. One bad signing, Fitz, one solid signing, Jackson. No absurd overpay deals or chasing huge money deals for WRs etc., which has to count as a win given franchise history.
1. We are paying Collins $16.9M, Fuller $13M, Jackson $14M. Jackson's annual average included since contract deals not available, first year number may be lower, but basically, $44M on 3 players in secondary, and probably closer to $48 when depth players counted, and possibly whoever we sign at FS. That is 25% of our cap. For that kind of money, you would expect one absolute superstar like Jalen Ramsey, and one of the most dominant secondaries in NFL. Especially with one of best DLs in NFL in front of it. Jesus was Collins signing horrible, he is almost certainly a goner after this year.
2. We are also spending $44M+ on OL this year, for which you would expect elite unit, ours is not. About $90M on OL and DBs, about half of cap, with a gaping hole still at FS and no long term LT. That leaves other half of cap for QB,WR,RB,TE,DL,LB,ST.
3. Wanna see how to build OL properly, look at Niners. Two stud Ts and a stud C. Don't like older players, but they at least understand the basics. Don't see any $20M guards on their roster.
4. Moves you would expect later part of FA. Signing someone at FS. Adding a WR. Adding a LB. We find three value signings those positions, has been a competent if not stellar FA.
5. Very interesting to think about a defense heavy draft. Not advocating it, but interesting to ponder. We drafted a FS, a CB, two LBs, with higher picks, our D would be scary good. Or FS,CB,LB, and perhaps one more modest big LB signing. Shallow draft for FS and S, so expect us to sign a FS, maybe draft long term answer next year? Or sleeper later? Moehrig at #19? As of now, you don't have to guess where teams will be attacking our D, middle of field underneath and 3+ WR sets to expose our FS, or deeeeeeeeep. With a true 1-high safety, this D could be unbelieveable.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Scalper

0. Average first day early period of free agency. One bad signing, Fitz, one solid signing, Jackson. No absurd overpay deals or chasing huge money deals for WRs etc., which has to count as a win given franchise history.

1. We are paying Collins $16.9M, Fuller $13M, Jackson $14M. Jackson's annual average included since contract deals not available, first year number may be lower, but basically, $44M on 3 players in secondary, and probably closer to $48 when depth players counted, and possibly whoever we sign at FS. That is 25% of our cap. For that kind of money, you would expect one absolute superstar like Jalen Ramsey, and one of the most dominant secondaries in NFL. Especially with one of best DLs in NFL in front of it. Jesus was Collins signing horrible, he is almost certainly a goner after this year.

2. We are also spending $44M+ on OL this year, for which you would expect elite unit, ours is not. About $90M on OL and DBs, about half of cap, with a gaping hole still at FS and no long term LT. That leaves other half of cap for QB,WR,RB,TE,DL,LB,ST.

3. Wanna see how to build OL properly, look at Niners. Two stud Ts and a stud C. Don't like older players, but they at least understand the basics. Don't see any $20M guards on their roster.

4. Moves you would expect later part of FA. Signing someone at FS. Adding a WR. Adding a LB. We find three value signings those positions, has been a competent if not stellar FA.

5. Very interesting to think about a defense heavy draft. Not advocating it, but interesting to ponder. We drafted a FS, a CB, two LBs, with higher picks, our D would be scary good. Or FS,CB,LB, and perhaps one more modest big LB signing. Shallow draft for FS and S, so expect us to sign a FS, maybe draft long term answer next year? Or sleeper later? Moehrig at #19? As of now, you don't have to guess where teams will be attacking our D, middle of field underneath and 3+ WR sets to expose our FS, or deeeeeeeeep. With a true 1-high safety, this D could be unbelieveable.

1. Collins will be cut after June 1st, saving 8M in cap -agree that was a horrible signing.

2. Build and pay the trenches. That is a winning strategy. Our DL is 38M which is less than half the league.

3. Hmmm. Do you still want to throw in SF. 49ers make Trent Williams highest-paid OL with 6-year, $138M deal
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2135480

Stud players (Scherff and TW are both studs) cost.

- and as for positional spending our QB room is 17th even with Fitzpatrick. Which affords us considerable cap space relative to the rest of the league. Bring in a rookie, have a good competion and sort out who is best short term and long term. If none are then you rinse and repeat next year.
We are 15th in defense spending and 19th in offense spending. In other words the FO is building a balanced team. Maybe one position is a little high or a little low but I think it shows they have a comprehensive plan for a long term success.


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[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

1. Collins will be cut after June 1st, saving 8M in cap -agree that was a horrible signing.

2. Build and pay the trenches. That is a winning strategy. Our DL is 38M which is less than half the league.

3. Hmmm. Do you still want to throw in SF. 49ers make Trent Williams highest-paid OL with 6-year, $138M deal
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2135480

Stud players (Scherff and TW are both studs) cost.

- and as for positional spending our QB room is 17th even with Fitzpatrick. Which affords us considerable cap space relative to the rest of the league. Bring in a rookie, have a good competion and sort out who is best short term and long term. If none are then you rinse and repeat next year.
We are 15th in defense spending and 19th in offense spending. In other words the FO is building a balanced team. Maybe one position is a little high or a little low but I think it shows they have a comprehensive plan for a long term success.


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They don't even need to wait, he could be designated as a post-June 1st cut today and it would apply. Wish they'd do it now because the longer it doesn't happen the more I believe he's staying which makes no sense with Kam Curl being the younger, better, and cheaper option.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

They don't even need to wait, he could be designated as a post-June 1st cut today and it would apply. Wish they'd do it now because the longer it doesn't happen the more I believe he's staying which makes no sense with Kam Curl being the younger, better, and cheaper option.

Thanks and right, I should have said "as a post Jun 1st cut". I don't know why they are waiting, but it only benefits the player to be cut early since the cap relief doesn't start until Jun 1st but the player can find a new team sooner. Maybe they want him in the early ota's as an extra body.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by mooby

They don't even need to wait, he could be designated as a post-June 1st cut today and it would apply. Wish they'd do it now because the longer it doesn't happen the more I believe he's staying which makes no sense with Kam Curl being the younger, better, and cheaper option.

Curl could Sophomore slump. Nothing wrong with a little insurance when cap hit so massive. Splitting it over 2 years doesn't change fact that $18M cap hit massive. You keep him one more year, and then the contract essentially autovoids with $10M dead cap. Allen and THE DAN. What Clowns. Between Smith and Collins, $40M+ in either dead cap or guys you pay wayyyyyyyyy too much. Crazy to think year 3 or 4 or RR's tenure before free of horrible decisions of past. Case study in why our judicious approach to FA is so smart.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

1. Collins will be cut after June 1st, saving 8M in cap -agree that was a horrible signing.

2. Build and pay the trenches. That is a winning strategy. Our DL is 38M which is less than half the league.

3. Hmmm. Do you still want to throw in SF. 49ers make Trent Williams highest-paid OL with 6-year, $138M deal
https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2135480

Stud players (Scherff and TW are both studs) cost.

- and as for positional spending our QB room is 17th even with Fitzpatrick. Which affords us considerable cap space relative to the rest of the league. Bring in a rookie, have a good competion and sort out who is best short term and long term. If none are then you rinse and repeat next year.
We are 15th in defense spending and 19th in offense spending. In other words the FO is building a balanced team. Maybe one position is a little high or a little low but I think it shows they have a comprehensive plan for a long term success.


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I doubt the Williams deal is truly for 6 years when you look at numbers, probably more like a 3 year deal. As i said, I don't like going old, but Williams is a stud. Almost certainly a HOFer. I threw SF in assuming they would resign Williams. :-)

Not so sure Collins gets cut. Huge cap hit, Curl only shined one year. I think he's gone year after, but who knows.

Some good observations, I agree about trenches.

Bring in 2 rookies and never sign Fitz unless less than $5M.