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Old 01-04-2021, 02:44 AM   #151
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I hope we draft the best QB still available with our first pick.

I am not convinced Alex Smith will come back next year. My impression of Allen is that he’s probably a journeyman but a decent backup QB. I’m not sure about Heinickle except that he has potential even though he is “short” at 6’. Let Heinickle, the rookie first pick and Allen compete for the QB spot.

Until we get a very mobile, franchise QB, we will not be able to balance our excellent defense with an equally good offense.

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No one that has played QB for us this year is the future. Alex needs to retire and Allen/Heinicke are competing for who is No. 2 for most of next year (that's a fantastic and needed job, and well paid).
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Old 01-04-2021, 07:35 AM   #152
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I hope we draft the best QB still available with our first pick.

I am not convinced Alex Smith will come back next year. My impression of Allen is that he’s probably a journeyman but a decent backup QB. I’m not sure about Heinickle except that he has potential even though he is “short” at 6’. Let Heinickle, the rookie first pick and Allen compete for the QB spot.

Until we get a very mobile, franchise QB, we will not be able to balance our excellent defense with an equally good offense.


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I'd add a true #2 WR to take heat of Scary, and another TE to partner Thomas. We have the backfield (though I'd be tempted to add a bruiser to replace Barber), we just need the targets for a new QB to throw to. Can't help wondering if AS had more guys to target, whether his passing stats would have been much better?...
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Old 01-04-2021, 11:50 AM   #153
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You sure you didn't mean "you shouldn't" instead of you can't? Sounds like you are telling me what I can't and can do lol But getting back to the stat's. This is just my opinion backed up by statistics. Can Fields be the real deal - obsolutly he can but odds are not in his favor...
you know what I mean smart ass...lol.
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Old 01-04-2021, 11:54 AM   #154
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Always loved the “experts” drooling over his 4 TDs in a half against The Citadel....🧐. Obviously he’s a really good QB, but the notion of tanking for him two years in advance is a little over the top.
I just don't see him on the same level as Burrow was last year. I look at his games against LSU and the other night, two times against top competition and he was not the best QB on the field. He was CLEARLY outplayed in both.

Mac Jones looks like a better passer. Obviously not a better athlete or runner, but a better drop back passer.
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Old 01-04-2021, 12:34 PM   #155
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Seems to me that if we want to get a "franchise QB" in this draft, we are going to have to give up something to move up into the top 10. Where we will be drafting, the best we can hope for is Trask or the kid from Cincinnati and neither of those two seem like a sure thing.
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Old 01-04-2021, 12:38 PM   #156
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Seems like a lot of WRs and LTs in the second half of the 1st round.

Things are setting up nicely.
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Old 01-04-2021, 06:41 PM   #157
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you know what I mean smart ass...lol.
yeah I was being a smart ass... lol it is all good
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Old 01-04-2021, 06:46 PM   #158
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I just don't see him on the same level as Burrow was last year. I look at his games against LSU and the other night, two times against top competition and he was not the best QB on the field. He was CLEARLY outplayed in both.

Mac Jones looks like a better passer. Obviously not a better athlete or runner, but a better drop back passer.
I just want want some one with more than 2 years starting and it would also be better if they played in a pro style offense... Haskins was a mistake I am a little leery of Heisman trophy winners because of pas history but that does not mean the won't work out... I like Mac Jones also. I think Lawrence, Fields and Wilson will be gone by the time we pick unless we trade up. Mac Jones may also be off the board as well.

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Old 01-04-2021, 08:07 PM   #159
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T Law has all the tools, will he translate? I think so but you can never say for sure
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Seems to me that if we want to get a "franchise QB" in this draft, we are going to have to give up something to move up into the top 10. Where we will be drafting, the best we can hope for is Trask or the kid from Cincinnati and neither of those two seem like a sure thing.
I really like Desmond Ridder from Cincy as a QB, he would need to sit a year and learn but he big upside to be a solid QB.
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Old 01-05-2021, 09:41 AM   #161
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I agree that longer term Ridder could be an NFL QB. But I am not sure if it would take 1 year ..... or 3. And that is the problem. We are in an unusual situation where a defensive unit has jelled very quickly while our offense, particularly at QB is far from certain. I think that the four QB's who could be ready to start next year are Lawrence, Fields, Wilson and Jones. But to get one of them, we would have to "trade up". So the question becomes whether the cost of moving up is worth the immediate benefit of obtaining one of the top four QB's. I am hopeful this off-season that football professionals, not Dan Snyder will be making that decision.
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Old 01-05-2021, 09:47 AM   #162
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Re: The Too Soon 2021 NFL Draft Thread

You can take Ridder at 19 because even if he doesn't pan out that isn't a huge loss, I'd rather take him in the 2nd tho
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Old 01-05-2021, 10:02 AM   #163
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I think Mac Jones is more NFL ready than Ridder. I haven't watched all their games, but in the few I have seen, I think I'd take Jones over Ridder. I don't know where they will be drafted...19 seems pretty high for both of them. If Jones can be had with that 2nd round pick, I'd be ok with that.
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Old 01-05-2021, 10:02 AM   #164
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How is everybody who knows college football feeling about Mac Jones? I only saw a bit of one game, but he looked like a guy who might be available and have a shot.
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How is everybody who knows college football feeling about Mac Jones? I only saw a bit of one game, but he looked like a guy who might be available and have a shot.
He's better than Trask and Ridder right now but that doesn't mean he'll be better in a few years. Low ceiling, accurate thrower , decent arm, can't move well.. He is not a Justin Herbert but he could be a Kirk Cousins type.
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