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Old 05-05-2021, 09:56 AM   #1
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Let's revisit the 2018 draft

As they say, you can't really grade a draft until 3 years in. So let's look at the 2018 draft and see what we really got out of it.

rd 1 Daron Payne
rd 2 Derrius Guice
rd 3 Geron Christian
rd 4 Troy Apke
rd 5 Tim Settle
rd 6 Shaun Dion Hamilton
rd 7 Greg Stroman
rd 7 Trey Quinn

Wow what a dump of a draft eh?

Obviously Payne is a stud, grade A pick.

We know the story with Guice, first class POS human.

Christian has been a disappointment and could be looking at his time here coming to an end this summer.

Apke can't play safety, good special teamer though.

Settle has been a nice backup, could develop into more.

SDH, Stroman, Quinn, BLAH.

Overall I'd give this draft a C- and it's only a passing grade because of Payne.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:08 AM   #2
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Re: Let's revisit the 2018 draft

I like Settle. He is a solid run stopper and depth.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:15 AM   #3
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Terrible besides Payne and Settle. Just awful. Guice pick was high risk high reward. Obviously we got the shit end of the stick there. The rest is just absolute garbage.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:19 AM   #4
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Re: Let's revisit the 2018 draft

My first reaction when I saw the thread title was "Do we have to"?

Payne and a bunch of trash. Other than Settle and he's nothing special.
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Old 05-05-2021, 10:57 AM   #5
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I like Settle. He is a solid run stopper and depth.
Yeah Settle is underrated, very good rotational DT, would have way more playing time on many teams not having spent 2 first rounds on interior linemen.

Anyway, main thing we can learn from 2018 draft is... Beyond the first round, we have absolutely no clue which players are going to pan out and which won't, thus we have no idea if a draft is good or not...

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Old 05-05-2021, 11:07 AM   #6
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Yeah Settle is underrated, very good rotational DT, would have way more playing time on many teams not having spent 2 first rounds on interior linemen.

Anyway, main thing we can learn from 2018 draft is... Beyond the first round, we have absolutely no clue which players are going to pan out and which won't, thus we have no idea if a draft is good or not...

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Agreed with both points.. I really hope we can find a way to extend or resign Settle somehow, I imagine Settle will want to join a team where he will have a chance to compete for a starter spot. If we decide to let Payne or Allen walk next year then we must resign Settle.
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Old 05-05-2021, 11:14 AM   #7
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Re: Let's revisit the 2018 draft

I wanted Derwin James over Payne, real surprised he passed on him but there must have been something bc he dropped.

Guice - I wasnt on the Guice train but was super happy we didnt take him with our 1st. Makes me wonder if we passed Derwin for some unknown character reason .. why did we draft Guice with known red flags.

Christain - reach on a project player much like Charles,. didnt like it.

Apke - reach on a project player w blazing combine stats, as a 4th i didnt haet it but it was a reach
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Old 05-05-2021, 11:19 AM   #8
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It was a typical Bruce led draft. Mostly misses, no idea on what his rationale was. Liked to gamble on injuries and character.
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Old 05-05-2021, 12:08 PM   #9
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Payne could break out into the elite category this coming season. Love that pick and he’s paid off.

Settle has been a surprise. He’s been great rotation depth and would like to keep him.

It’s gonna be tough to keep both, Settle could be a guy who could get plucked with a big contract offer if he continues to perform. Lotta folks still sleeping on Settle
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Old 05-05-2021, 12:10 PM   #10
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Lol…I crushed the Apke pick when it happened. Apke is gone
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Old 05-05-2021, 12:24 PM   #11
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Think C- is fair grade Most of those players are probably going to have typical careers for their draft spot. Settle hitting above average for a 4th while Guice was below.
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Old 05-05-2021, 04:05 PM   #12
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Re: Let's revisit the 2018 draft

I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.

You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.

Back to the topic - because Settle is so good the draft can't be viewed as anything less than a B-. They say if you get two starters out of a draft, you've done well. We got Payne and I count Settle as a starting caliber player.

But they deserve to be dinged seriously for Guice because he dropped for character reasons, and it turned out to be completely true. 2nd round is high for a RB in the first place, and if he's got character concerns then it's even harder to make a profit on the selection.

The Christian pick is annoying too because the guy was clearly never strong enough. You can teach technique. It's a lot harder to move the needle on strength and speed, and impossible to move it on size.

I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.
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Old 05-05-2021, 04:09 PM   #13
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Re: Let's revisit the 2018 draft

Since we're discussing past drafts...

Kyle Shanahan says Washington planned on drafting Russell Wilson
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Old 05-05-2021, 04:33 PM   #14
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I think we're not just underrating Tim Settle, but seriously underrating Tim Settle. He's a starting caliber player, just buried on the depth chart behind two first rounders from Alabama, and a when-healthy 2nd only to Aaron Donald interior pass rusher.

You could make an argument that the best thing for the team is to trade Allen or Payne now and let Settle play. I don't think you lose much.


I'll go B-. Settle is a genuine gem, he saves what could have been a D.
Couldn't agree more with the bolded part. Package Payne and Scherff and go get Rogers, or sell em individually for some high draft picks. Use an abundance of strength at one position (saves money and gets picks) to solve issues in areas of weakness.
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Payne could break out into the elite category this coming season. Love that pick and he’s paid off.

Settle has been a surprise. He’s been great rotation depth and would like to keep him.

It’s gonna be tough to keep both, Settle could be a guy who could get plucked with a big contract offer if he continues to perform. Lotta folks still sleeping on Settle
This is the way. I agree.
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