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SmootSmack 01-18-2006, 10:04 PM If Rich Gannon could lead his team to the Super Bowl at age 37, I see no reason why Brunell can't do it at 36. Brunell's comeback from 2004 was outstanding, and he had an excellent year. One of the best of a very good, if not great, career. Like Matty and others have said, to not give him any credit for the success of this season is just pure hate.
It's true that Brunell has basically hit his peak, but with the team we have right now I think that's good enough to be a damn good team.
Truthfully, part of me wants to see both Ramsey and Brunell gone. Just because all of this Ramsey vs. Brunell debate is just plain stupid. Ramsey (and Jacobs) have apparently never been given a chance to show what they can do. And Brunell was no more instrumental to the Redskins' success this year than BrudLee (no offense Brud). I'd almost rather just say good-bye to both and start fresh with Jason Campbell.
railcon56 01-18-2006, 10:12 PM Unfortunately they didn't cut Brunell, we traded a 3rd rd pick for him. I thought it was foolish at the time, but after season season it was worth it. Hopefully we can find someone to give us a #3 for Ramsey. I get your basic point, however, I think you are perhaps a bit too attached to Ramsey though. Brunell played very well this season and I doubt Ramsey could have piloted this team to a similar record. His decision making is questionable and his play is inconsistent. Even in the Giants game he only made one throw and it really was not all that great...in fact is was borderline horrible. He was lucky Moss (and Will Allen) were on the other end of it. Ramsey's future is elsewhere, our future is Jason Campbell.
He was riding the pine in Jacksonville....
bertoskins 01-18-2006, 10:13 PM at first gibbs really did not like ramsey
he tell snyder to draft JC a gibbs duy so
defenitely gibbs will start playing him
as for brunnel he can be a good mentor to the kid
and he will groom him tremendously
NM Redskin 01-18-2006, 10:23 PM If Rich Gannon could lead his team to the Super Bowl at age 37, I see no reason why Brunell can't do it at 36. Brunell's comeback from 2004 was outstanding, and he had an excellent year. One of the best of a very good, if not great, career. Like Matty and others have said, to not give him any credit for the success of this season is just pure hate.
It's true that Brunell has basically hit his peak, but with the team we have right now I think that's good enough to be a damn good team.
Truthfully, part of me wants to see both Ramsey and Brunell gone. Just because all of this Ramsey vs. Brunell debate is just plain stupid. Ramsey (and Jacobs) have apparently never been given a chance to show what they can do. And Brunell was no more instrumental to the Redskins' success this year than BrudLee (no offense Brud). I'd almost rather just say good-bye to both and start fresh with Jason Campbell.
The only problem is, they didn't win the Super Bowl.
SmootSmack 01-18-2006, 10:37 PM The only problem is, they didn't win the Super Bowl.
True, but they got farther than 30 other teams
offiss 01-18-2006, 11:06 PM This column is right on.
http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20060117-124142-3163r.htm
Has this guy been reading my post's?
Matty who owns the copy rights to my posts? We may have a law suit? :twocents:
offiss 01-18-2006, 11:20 PM If Rich Gannon could lead his team to the Super Bowl at age 37, I see no reason why Brunell can't do it at 36. Brunell's comeback from 2004 was outstanding, and he had an excellent year. One of the best of a very good, if not great, career. Like Matty and others have said, to not give him any credit for the success of this season is just pure hate.
It's true that Brunell has basically hit his peak, but with the team we have right now I think that's good enough to be a damn good team.
Truthfully, part of me wants to see both Ramsey and Brunell gone. Just because all of this Ramsey vs. Brunell debate is just plain stupid. Ramsey (and Jacobs) have apparently never been given a chance to show what they can do. And Brunell was no more instrumental to the Redskins' success this year than BrudLee (no offense Brud). I'd almost rather just say good-bye to both and start fresh with Jason Campbell.
Come on TAF, your not going to compare Brunell to what Gannon was doing in Oakland are you? Wasen't Gannon a league MVP? [not sure] But I do know this, he was a significant cog in the oakland offense, he was a big reason why they won, that can't be said about Brunell.
I don't really feel a QB is incapable of winning the big one at 36, but he better be a very good QB to do so, which Brunell is not, and he is certainly not posting numbers like Gannon.
If the choice is Brunell or Campbell I want Campbell, we are only spinning our tires with Brunell, I really believe the right choice here is Ramsey, perhaps we get Campbell some playing time along the way, then let Ramsey walk after the year is over and promote Campbell to starter.
I have an idea rather than trade Ramsey, why don't we recoupe some pic's by trading Brunell? If Ramsey can bring back A #2 or 3, then it's only right that Brunell command a #2 at the very least, after all he's a big time QB coming off a magnificent year and guided us to the second rd. of the playoff's. We wouldn't get laughed at by the rest of the GM's or anything would we?
It's funny but if you want to compare who is more valued by other teams than just put both of them on the market and see what kind of offers we get for either, I bet the offers come flooding in for Ramsey, and zip for Brunell.
I don't want to hear about age either, if a QB is capable of leading a team to the SB even if he only has 1 year left he would defiently have a lot of value to the right team. As well if Ramsey is incapable of leading a team to the SB, then what value does he really have? Why give up anything or invest in a QB who just doesn't have it, Dolphins, Jets, are 2 definate possiblities for Ramsey.
offiss 01-18-2006, 11:37 PM at first gibbs really did not like ramsey
he tell snyder to draft JC a gibbs duy so
defenitely gibbs will start playing him
as for brunnel he can be a good mentor to the kid
and he will groom him tremendously
I don't know about that, how much has his mentoring helped Ramsey? From what I hear from a lot of guy's on this board Ramsey still stink's, perhaps Brunell is not the guy to be tutoring other QB's, he obviously has failed with Ramsey.
Redskins8588 01-19-2006, 12:33 AM Just my thoughts, but I do think that Ramsey did change for the better by watching a healthy Brunell play this year. What makes me think that is when Ramsey had to play in the second NYG game, due to Brunell going down. There was one play where Ramsey dumped the ball off to Betts just out of the backfield. He went through his progressions, and finally dumped off to Betts, the thing is not that he went through his progressions and checked down to Betts but how he threw the pass. The old Ramsey would have "bulleted" the ball to Betts, who was about 4 or 5 yards away, the Ramsey I saw on that play lofted the ball over a defenders head to Betts, Ramsey put the much so coveted "touch" on that pass... Again, just my thoughts...
Too bad that we couldnt see more of Ramsey to really tell if he had learned anything or not...
railcon56 01-19-2006, 01:20 AM Has this guy been reading my post's?
Matty who owns the copy rights to my posts? We may have a law suit? :twocents:
He Sure got it Right Didn't He offiss????:goodjob:
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