rooting for Goliath

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Schneed10
03-26-2006, 10:01 PM
They key thing to remember is there is no franchise in the NFL that is incapable of turning a profit by spending up to the salary cap. The salary cap is set at such a level that even Arizona can turn a profit by spending that money. Therefore, money doesn't enter the equation with football like it does in baseball.

There are plenty of teams that whine and cry about big market teams, but the truth is they have the funds to pay for players too. Many just choose not to. So let the uninformed say what they want.

Redskins8588
03-26-2006, 11:21 PM
I said it before on here, I will gladly take an owner that is not afraid to spend the $$ money on the team like Snyder does. Atleast he is trying to put a winning team on the field. Back in 2000 he didnt fair well with his spending but so what you make mistakes and learn, thats the only way to truely learn.

I would rather sit here and bitch about the media haters than bitch about an owner that wont try...

Kope
03-26-2006, 11:38 PM
Goliath - shmoliath. Like NYG/NYJ, DaBears, Pats and Fish have no poplulation to draw from; paaalease. Snyder is pulling his weight...what about the other owners?

KLHJ2
03-26-2006, 11:39 PM
You know, I admit that when Snyder was making all of those big spendings like Deion and so forth I was impressed that he even tried to get big name players. He was at least trying to improve his team. He could not help the fact they were out of their prime time. Since he took over we have always had a kick ass off season.The sad part was that it didn't always translate into wins. I am happy to say that with Joe Gibbs's return improvements have been made. And to the credit of the spoiled rich kid it is finally starting to work out for him. All he has ever wanted for the Skins is to bee winners, and he has proven that. He has done nothing more than any of us have done while playing Madden football. Hiring the best free agents in order for us to easier win the Super Bowl. Yet we criticize him constantly. One day all of that spent money is going to translate into a Super Bowl. So stop complaining about his open pockets, and welcome them. We will thank him later!

Sociofan
03-27-2006, 12:51 AM
Okay, as a Red Sox fanatic, I immediataly resent any comparisons of the Redskins to the Yankees.

The reality is that you cannot compare the Redskins to any baseball team. There is no cap in baseball and so Steinbrenner can outspend other teams by twice as much if he so chooses. In football, each team is held to the same annual spending limit. Granted, you can spend creatively, but everyone in the end is allowed exactly the same amount.

What is more curious to me is the criticism of the signings. Snyder, in my opinion, just completed one of the most targeted and well conceived free agent signing periods of his ownership. He gave a lot of up front money, but the overall contracts were reasonable. And yet we have Dallas signing players like Fabini (3 years up to $7.5M) who is physically questionable at best, Owens ($10M per), who needs no description of his risks, and Ayodele (5 years $17M), who is a pure 4-3 LB to insert into a 3-4 scheme (note: Fujita had to be cast off from Dallas this offseason for the very same reason). How is it that the former poster boy for excess (Jerry Jones) has avoided the same criticisms?

Jack Kent Cooke used to spend money like he was printing it and would routinely have one of (if not THE) highest payrolls in the NFL. Yet people loved him and the Skins. Was it because he was the cantankerous old curmudgeon? And Snyder is the brash young executive? To be honest, they are a lot more alike than many recognize. Above all, both love(d) this team and they would spend whatever it took to get the talent needed to win.

The Skins have been a goliath for the past 30 years. The only thing that has changed is the media's perception of the goliath.

That Guy
03-27-2006, 01:51 AM
didn't jerry win a SB ;)? I figure that can take some pressure off you.

Huddle
03-27-2006, 04:04 AM
a win is a win is a win.to me,winning cures everything.i really dont care what other fans think

Yours is the thick-skinned attitude Redskins fans will need.

My remarks are meant for those more sensitive to criticism. We aren't going to be admired if we win; we will be laughed at if we lose. Let's get used to it.

Huddle
03-27-2006, 04:46 AM
Goliath - shmoliath. Like NYG/NYJ, DaBears, Pats and Fish have no poplulation to draw from; paaalease. Snyder is pulling his weight...what about the other owners?

It isn't good for the league if the small market teams run losses as they did in the NHL.

Bear in mind, it's not the cap limit that counts but the actual payroll limit. Are all the owners with lower payrolls than the Redskins simply tight-fisted? Probably not.

But the real issue for Redskins' fans is not whether the criticism our team gets is fair or unfair. The point is that we are not going to be admired if we win and we'll be trashed if we have the league's highest payroll and still lose. That being the case, a thick-skinned attitude for Skins' fans works best.

Huddle
03-27-2006, 05:12 AM
Sociofan

Okay, as a Red Sox fanatic, I immediataly resent any comparisons of the Redskins to the Yankees.


Relax. I used the Yankees as an analogy to help explain the reasons for the public attitude. The use of an analogy does not imply that its author is drawing comparisons beyond the idea presented.

Jack Kent Cooke used to spend money like he was printing it and would routinely have one of (if not THE) highest payrolls in the NFL. Yet people loved him and the Skins.

Free agency makes Snyder's spending more obvious.

The Skins were criticized for keeping the most players on IR year after year (there was no limit then).

Huddle
03-27-2006, 05:18 AM
angryssg says:

Yet we criticize him [Snyder] constantly. One day all of that spent money is going to translate into a Super Bowl. So stop complaining about his open pockets, and welcome them. We will thank him later!

I don't think you'll find too many Redskins fans complaining but that's not what we're talking about here.

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