How Long For Brunell?

Favre is on a bad team, period.

Put him on a good team and he would look much better.

Favre is on a bad team, period.

Put him on a good team and he would look much better.

I agree. On a good team he is a Pro Bowler. He really hasn't lost much physically. He simply has totally nothing around him and has to do it all. Bad system, bad skill playes, no o-line = Favre looking like Jeff George.

Favre is on a bad team, period.

Put him on a good team and he would look much better.

Don't get me wrong, I love Favre and I think the football world will be worse off when he hangs it up. But to claim a quarterbacks' skills don't deteriorate with age is a little unrealistic.

Don't get me wrong, I love Favre and I think the football world will be worse off when he hangs it up. But to claim a quarterbacks' skills don't deteriorate with age is a little unrealistic.

What skills has he lost?

Don't get me wrong, I love Favre and I think the football world will be worse off when he hangs it up. But to claim a quarterbacks' skills don't deteriorate with age is a little unrealistic.

Of course he's not the same player he was 5 years ago, but the team around him has more to do with his recent struggles than anything he's "lost".

I dont want to see a replica of the first three quarters in Dallas last year. Those were three of the most miserable quarters I've witnessed in all my years of watching pro football. Brunell is going to have to make plays in the passing game for this team to be successful. That includes going through his progression and his second target not always being the check down or dump off. We need more pass plays for completions in the seventeen to twenty one yard range, and not just passes to Moss all the time. We have other receivers, get them involved in the offense.

What skills has he lost?

Absolutely nothing. The 29 picks he threw last season was entirely the fault of the receivers and offensive line.

Seriously, I think that Brett Favre is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game, but he has lost some of the intangibles that have made him so great. There were plenty of seasons where he was the only reason the Packers were any good, but he can't just bomb the ball 50 yards down field, off of his back foot, as accurately as he used to. And he can't zip the ball in the tight spaces he used to. It's party due to the players around him, but you're kidding yourself if you think none of it is him.

The only reason I even brought up Favre was to make the point that a players skills do deteriorate with age. Just like Brunell, who used to be a running gunslinger, five years ago...

Absolutely nothing. The 29 picks he threw last season was entirely the fault of the receivers and offensive line.

Seriously, I think that Brett Favre is one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game, but he has lost some of the intangibles that have made him so great. There were plenty of seasons where he was the only reason the Packers were any good, but he can't just bomb the ball 50 yards down field, off of his back foot, as accurately as he used to. And he can't zip the ball in the tight spaces he used to. It's party due to the players around him, but you're kidding yourself if you think none of it is him.

The only reason I even brought up Favre was to make the point that a players skills do deteriorate with age. Just like Brunell, who used to be a running gunslinger, five years ago...

I am not sure I think it's even possible to lose intangibles. I'd say al ot of it fell on him but I think it is because he has a tendency to try to do more than what he should really do. I n fact I think our QB needs to get just a smidge of that in him and we may win that game last night. As far as physically I think he holds up pretty well when compared to himself over the years. Certainly he might be a bit slower or less agile but not terribly so. He's a wanton make plays type of guy and on a team with no one on the other side of the equation to hold up that side of the play his throw caution to wind approach doesn't work well at all.

I dont want to see a replica of the first three quarters in Dallas last year. Those were three of the most miserable quarters I've witnessed in all my years of watching pro football. Brunell is going to have to make plays in the passing game for this team to be successful. That includes going through his progression and his second target not always being the check down or dump off. We need more pass plays for completions in the seventeen to twenty one yard range, and not just passes to Moss all the time. We have other receivers, get them involved in the offense.

I would kill for an exact replica of last year's first game against Dallas. I thoroughly enjoyed stealing the game from jubilant Dallas fans at the last minute more so than I enjoyed watching our team pummel them. There's something to be said for stealing something at the last minute and watching smiles turn into tears.

I'd like to see Jason Campbell get in there, but at the same time appreciate the experience Mark Brunell brings to the team. You guys forget a couple of important factors in last night's game; if Moss holds on to the ball after getting rocked by Sharper in the end zone, this is not a subject we would be discussing. At least not this week. It was a great pass. Also, no interceptions; as opposed to three by Drew Bledsoe, one of which happened at crunch time in their game against the Jags.