How Long For Brunell?

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offiss
09-13-2006, 03:46 AM
When a team loses the most popular player on the team is always the backup QB. But while there were some poor decisions by Brunell, it wasn't all on him. He's not the one who ran 4 yard routes on 3rd and 6, he's not the one who left the middle of the field wide open on defense, he's not the one with the late hit, or the missed field goal, or the poor special teams coverage. His knee isn't the one that got busted on the first play damaging our nickel defense.

It's just one game. Way, way, way too early to start making changes


[QUOTE]He's not the one who ran 4 yard routes on 3rd and 6,

No, but he is the guy who threw a 4 yard pass when we needed 6 because he was afraid he was going to be hit, and nobody was near him, that route is designed to hit a player to the left or to the right so he already has momentum lateraly to run up field and get the first, you cannot hit him stationary like Brunell did, as well Brunell has to know as a QB that there are 2 defenders right behind Portis waiting to pounce on him if he throws it to him, that was an unnessasary throw by a QB who's scared to death of any contact whatsoever, he may as well grounded that ball.

Brunell is not only scared of contact he's afraid of the potential for contact so he anticipates it even when it's not there, and that's why he has happy feet and jumps out of the pocket when no pressure is present.

Do I believe the backup is the most popular guy right now? Not really! I don't have any faith in Collins running the offense, and quite frankly if Campbell can't beat out Brunell at this stage of his developement don't know if he will ever have the ability to win a SB, but we can spend next year finding out the answer to that question, because as someone stated earlier Brunell will have to break a leg before Gibbs yanks him, and even then he'll probably be a game time decision! Not to worry though we will play teams with no pass rush and Brunell will excel when he's sure no one will get close to him.

JWsleep
09-13-2006, 10:18 AM
Look, we did not run the ball well at all, and that really makes it harder to throw. That being said, Brunnell's lack of efficiency on third down was a killer. The one that really killed me was that play near the end on third down where he couldn't get the ball over the D lineman to Cooley. That forced a punt, which led to the Vikes final score. He's got to find a way to make that play. If he can't, the clamoring for Campbell is going to get louder and louder...

It's not enough to avoid losing the game. He's got to win it for us some of the time. I agree in general that it's way to early to make changes--this is a new and complex offense, after all. But he's gotta step up.

freddyg12
09-13-2006, 10:39 AM
In Gibbs' 1st yr back it was often said that he tells brunell to get rid of the ball and not force it. The coaches know its a long season, and they probably are telling him to protect himself. I just wish he'd tuck it & go more often, he can still run well enough to get out of bounds w/ a few yards.

Twilbert07
09-13-2006, 10:49 AM
In Gibbs' 1st yr back it was often said that he tells brunell to get rid of the ball and not force it. The coaches know its a long season, and they probably are telling him to protect himself. I just wish he'd tuck it & go more often, he can still run well enough to get out of bounds w/ a few yards.

You're right. Throwing it away when there's no one within five yards of you doesn't help much. Run for a few yards then slide.

Longtimefan
09-13-2006, 02:29 PM
I would kill for an exact replica of last year's first game against Dallas. I thoroughly enjoyed stealing the game from jubilant Dallas fans at the last minute more so than I enjoyed watching our team pummel them. There's something to be said for stealing something at the last minute and watching smiles turn into tears.


The last quarter maybe but not the first three, and that's what I was refering too, the first three quarters, pitiful. Now if you would kill for those first three, maybe we should never win another game.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha
09-13-2006, 07:46 PM
The last quarter maybe but not the first three, and that's what I was refering too, the first three quarters, pitiful. Now if you would kill for those first three, maybe we should never win another game.

Obviously I wouldn't kill just for the first 3 quarters and, yeah, I knew that you were referring to those first 3 quarters as pitiful. But I want the entire game to be replayed. I really liked watching those jubiliant Cowboys fans sulk and cry when we took the game from them in the last few minutes. That was some funny stuff. Whenever I get pissed or upset, I just watch that game and see the expression on fans' faces after Moss scores the second TD. Hilarious stuff my friend.

skinsguy
09-13-2006, 08:27 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love Favre and I think the football world will be worse off when he hangs it up. But to claim a quarterbacks' skills don't deteriorate with age is a little unrealistic.

Physically skills yes...the mental game, no way! Farve had some pretty good receivers to throw to during the Pac's glory years...not taking away from Farve, but I believe when you have confidence in your receivers, it lifts the QB's play that much more. Farve is playing on the offense by himself.

skinsguy
09-13-2006, 08:31 PM
Brunell is not only scared of contact he's afraid of the potential for contact so he anticipates it even when it's not there, and that's why he has happy feet and jumps out of the pocket when no pressure is present.

#1: That is what QB is supposed to do, anticipate pressure -- it's called awareness.

Secondly, Ramsey was the king of happy dancing feet, so don't even go there.

CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR
09-13-2006, 08:44 PM
His ass should have should have been gone in 2004, last year was a fluke. We went to the playoffs in spite of him last not because of him. Damn you see his old ass legs go out of under him trying to run out of bounds monday. Gibbs for some unknown reason is willing to sink his reputation with this has been. I hope i'm wrong but i dont thinks so. He didnt do anything to lose but he sure as hell didnt do anything to help win the game just one scramble, that why i thought we had in there for was for his great mobility. Damn that arm look weak its really sad,but hey at least he can throw a screen pass or out of bounds.

SmootSmack
09-13-2006, 08:58 PM
Brunell still has the arm, he showed it on the last drive. 2004 was the fluke

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