Houston is THAT bad...

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724Skinsfan
09-25-2006, 08:00 AM
The nice thing about having success solely on the short game is that our opponents are going to have to gameplan towards that. Remember Saunders typically doesn't run the same plays week in and week out. I think versus JAX we'll see quite a few long pass attempts to Lloyd, Randle El and some other dude that's good at catching the long ball.

hesscl34
09-25-2006, 02:45 PM
I will say this one negative thing - I think Rogers BLOWS! We will not make it very far without Springs. He really needs to get healthy.

12thMan
09-25-2006, 02:48 PM
I will say this one negative thing - I think Rogers BLOWS! We will not make it very far without Springs. He really needs to get healthy.

You're always so negative, H34:)

hesscl34
09-25-2006, 03:01 PM
You're always so negative, H34:)

... just wait until we are in the Playoffs!!!

jsarno
09-25-2006, 03:15 PM
The nice thing about having success solely on the short game is that our opponents are going to have to gameplan towards that. Remember Saunders typically doesn't run the same plays week in and week out. I think versus JAX we'll see quite a few long pass attempts to Lloyd, Randle El and some other dude that's good at catching the long ball.

I would like to beleive that, but it's not like Saunders asks Brunell to throw short. He sets up the plays with options for downfield passes, and short passes...Brunell checks down to the short passes and gives up on the deep passes. It's not Saunders, it's Brunell.

hesscl34
09-25-2006, 03:19 PM
I would like to beleive that, but it's not like Saunders asks Brunell to throw short. He sets up the plays with options for downfield passes, and short passes...Brunell checks down to the short passes and gives up on the deep passes. It's not Saunders, it's Brunell.

Is that why Moss was in the backfield catching balls? Because Saunders really wanted Brunell to throw downfield? .... right... give me a break.

MTK
09-25-2006, 03:23 PM
Yesterday's short passing emphasis was definitely more game plan related. There may have been a few instances where Brunell checked down, but all the screens, slants, and dumps were by design.

hesscl34
09-25-2006, 03:28 PM
Yesterday's short passing emphasis was definitely more game plan related. There may have been a few instances where Brunell checked down, but all the screens, slants, and dumps were by design.

I agree. Everyone is always looking for why we aren't good enough, or need to be better, or won't make it. It's so annoying.

TheMalcolmConnection
09-25-2006, 03:33 PM
I think it's the result of all the losses (including preseason). Had that happened last year after our undefeated start, we wouldn't hear as much bitching. He'll hit a couple bombs (I hope) and all will be right.

jsarno
09-25-2006, 03:59 PM
Is that why Moss was in the backfield catching balls? Because Saunders really wanted Brunell to throw downfield? .... right... give me a break.

Sorry, bud, no break allowed here.
Watch the game films, break them down. Sure there were plenty of actually planned plays involving ARE and Moss on the short plays, but are you seriously trying to tell me that Lloyd, Moss and ARE (as well as Patton) did not have any downfield routes? WOW? How about the play when everyone was set up on curl routes (downfield) and Brunell hesitated too long to hit anyone. Moss stood there waiting, but Lloyd decided to keep moving, and Brunell hit him in stride after a long delay. Had it not been for the protection, that would have been a loss on the play.
So I ask you again to watch the film, watch how many plays had receivers doing crossing routes downfield, or deep outs, and Brunell not giving them a chance and checking down to the short passes. The problem is, we only remember the deliberate short passes / dumps. Of course those are planned, but what happened when they were not planned?

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