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Daseal 11-19-2006, 08:30 PM Samuels played much better today. I think Dockery has actually been one of our better linemen this hyear. He makes progress every year.
It might be time to draft a replacement for Jansen. He looks HORRIBLE.
chris36 11-19-2006, 08:32 PM Samuels looked better today, but I have not forgiven him for the Colts game. Jansen continues to look like s**t.
SmootSmack 11-19-2006, 08:35 PM I don't like to make accusations about players' motives, but there are times when I can't help but wonder if Jansen doesn't have his mind more on his broadcast career than his playing career.
Citizens for 81 11-19-2006, 08:42 PM Instead of O line, this thread should be tittled O-ver rated. I can't believe these guys have played this bad.
I think Jansen has given up a sack in every game dating back to the Titans game (not positive but pretty sure). Its upsetting as well because most of the o-line is very media friendly and Gibbs considers most of them to be core players.
Buges has to start subbing-in some of the younger guys like Molinaro in order to see where the team stands on the o-line before the draft and free agency.
Citizens for 81 11-19-2006, 08:46 PM I don't like to make accusations about players' motives, but there are times when I can't help but wonder if Jansen doesn't have his mind more on his broadcast career than his playing career.
Great point, and that's disappointing especially since he's one of the main faces of skins to others in the league, fans, and media.
SmootSmack 11-19-2006, 08:55 PM Great point, and that's disappointing especially since he's one of the main faces of skins to others in the league, fans, and media.
I say we take him off all those Redskins shows and put Brunell there.
Citizens for 81 11-19-2006, 09:09 PM I say we take him off all those Redskins shows and put Brunell there.
Brunell might cry if someone asks him a tough question. What am I saying this is the skins nobody's going to do that
Longtimefan 11-19-2006, 09:46 PM Perhaps the O-line will play better when we establish an identity as a team. I'm trying to figure out whether we want to be a running team, or a passing team, and the O-line suffers as a result. The running plays we utilize this year are not the same plays Portis ran us to the playoffs with last year. I'm not so sure our linemen are the type to run many of the stretch plays Saunders likes to utilize. In KC he had lighter, active linemen with more of an ability to run to the edge. I don't know that we nedd to change personel as much as we need to change the method of attack.
In defense of Samuels I think in most games he acredits himself well. He did a great job today of riding his man far to the outside, and beyond the pocket. The only time he has trouble is with the speed rushers, as do most OT. He had trouble with Dwight Freeney mainly because of his speed. I think once the team actually establishes itself as arunning team once again, the pass blocking will improve, however they must commit to the run, and stay with it. We had far too few rushing atempts today.
Beemnseven 11-19-2006, 10:51 PM Perhaps the O-line will play better when we establish an identity as a team. I'm trying to figure out whether we want to be a running team, or a passing team, and the O-line suffers as a result.
The problem is that professional football players who play the offensive line are supposed to be able to do both. I've had enough of the "identity crisis" crap. Let's not mistake Redskins football with the pre-Bill Callahan Nebraska Cornhuskers.
The way we hear it sometimes you'd think these guys can run block, but they can't be expected to pass block. They'd prefer to run it, be smashmouth, that sort of thing -- but they're not showing they can be good at that.
You cannot pound the ball 50 times and expect to win in this league. You must have balance. You must give the quarterback time to throw, and yes, occasionally, it would be nice if they could pick up a blitz or two.
70Chip 11-19-2006, 11:42 PM I actually thought the O-Line played their best road game of the year today. The problem is that Betts is not quite elusive and not quite a bruiser. He's a tweener. He's not a back that is ever going to scare defenses the way a healthy Portis does. He found a little niche as Brunell's third down safety-valve, but he is a journeyman. I would like to see Duckett become the feature and run power plays the rest of the year. Counter Gap and Gut. Quit trying to capture the edge. Betts can't outrun anyone anyways. (Basically, we chuck Saunders for the old school Gibbs plays). We can do it now that we have Jason Campbell and his freakin lazer beam throws. Pound it, Pound it, 18 yard deep in. Defenses start to cry.
We need to put Saunders on a train and say, "Thanks for the info, and sorry it didn't work out. We'll hold on to this playbook just in case. No, no we'll call you."
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