Why in the heck did Synder keep Turner over Casserly?

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Bill B
12-11-2006, 03:35 PM
Here is an interesting article I found from 1999 and one part of it talking about the transition when Synder bought the team and here is a qoute from Casserly of what he told Dan at the time:

"When Dan Snyder bought the club, I told him, ‘You’re buying this club at exactly the right point in time. You’ve got a good, young nucleus here. You’ve got a potential Pro Bowl quarterback. You have a chance to win the division this year. And you’ve got three No. 1 draft choices next year, so your future is ensured,’ " Casserly said. "That’s what I told him. And I thought the team was in good shape when I left and that the future was secure. So anytime the team has success, I’m happy for them."

Charley Casserly (http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives/features_1999/schleiden_111599.asp)

So basically Casserly got him a bunch of #1's plus a young cover corner in Champ Bailey and a vet in Brad Johnson and look at the mess we are in now 8 YEARS LATER!!!!!

So answer me this: Why in the heck did Synder keep Norv Turner over Casserly?

hesscl34
12-11-2006, 03:38 PM
What's done is done.... onward!!!!!!

ArtMonkDrillz
12-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Because he could see into the future and knew that one day Casserly would be in a position to choose a player like Mario Williams over someone like Reggie Bush/Vince Young/etc.
It's that kind of foresight that makes the Skins the best run team in the NFL.


Or, I have no idea.

ArtMonkDrillz
12-11-2006, 03:40 PM
So basically Casserly got him a bunch of #1's plus a young cover corner in Champ Bailey and a vet in Brad Johnson and look at the mess we are in now 8 YEARS LATER!!!!!

It's all that more sad when you look back to that.

SmootSmack
12-11-2006, 03:42 PM
Turner and Casserly weren't getting along, Snyder felt it was too late to look for a new coach when he bought the team. He's admitted that if he had to do it all over again he'd have kept Casserly and not Turner. In my opinion, he should have let them both go (which ultimately he did)

Either way, tired subject that we've talked about ad nauseaum

FRPLG
12-11-2006, 03:54 PM
Neither was ever any good.

redsk1
12-11-2006, 04:22 PM
I'd like to hear it from Charley Casserly that he wanted Mario Williams. If he was out soon thereafter, I bet you ownership and/or coaching had a lot to do w/ it.

Casserly also thought that JC was rated similarly to Vince Young. I'm not sure if this is good or bad.

FRPLG
12-11-2006, 04:41 PM
I'd like to hear it from Charley Casserly that he wanted Mario Williams. If he was out soon thereafter, I bet you ownership and/or coaching had a lot to do w/ it.

Casserly also thought that JC was rated similarly to Vince Young. I'm not sure if this is good or bad.

It doesn't make any sense but it was reported that Casserly ran the draft and Mario was his pick. I never understoood why a team would fire a guy but keep him around long enough to run one of the most important things they do. Aren't you saying by firing him that he isn't doing a very good job? So you keep him around a little longer to continue doing a bad job? Huh? And people think our front office does tupid things. That's the dumbest thing ever.

brent
12-11-2006, 04:43 PM
Considering his struggles in Houston, I wouldn't pine too much over it. You know our owner is in love with Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, the TRAITOR, so of course he favored Dallas Cowboy reject Turner!

REDSKIN2
12-11-2006, 04:43 PM
With the exception of Brad Johnson and Stephen Davis, and maybe Tre, I wouldn't say that that team in 99 was quite as good as Mr. Casserly made it out to be. True Turner did not do a very good job coaching up to what this town expected but Casserly did not do much to distinguish himself prior to and during Turner (Desmond Howard, Heath Shuler, Michael Westbrook, Kenard Lang, Albert Connell, Andre Johnson) and let's not forget the great purge of the 91 SB Team in 93 and replacement free agents of Al Noga, Tim McGee, Carl Banks after letting Mann, Gary Clark and Wilbur Marshall go for nothing or in Marshall's case almost nothing.

He did keep our Salary Cap in good shape though.

Besides, we used those first round picks to get Lavar and Samuels and then traded Champ for Portis. That's not too shabby. Especially since the Browns took Courtney Brown with the first pick and Cincy took Peter Warwick with the 4th.

and before we start smashing Turner once again consider when compared to Gibbs II he had just as many playoff appearances (1) and just as many losing seasons (2) and most of his teams were average to above average certainly better than many of our teams since 2000 and he started with no talent on the roster and did not have the open checkbook of the Dan yet. Not saying that Norv was by any means a great coach or even a good one at the head level or that he even equates to Gibbs at all but in my opinion I don't think he was the worst and he certainly did a better job than Spurrier.

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