Schneed10
01-26-2007, 10:02 AM
i really dont think that is the answer. its something about the mentality of the middle east. kill or be killed. no matter how much we try to interject, the mindset remains the same
You're right, the Sunnis and Shiites are going to kill each other no matter what. The only way it can work is if Iraq gets economically and militarily strong enough to suppress its own uprisings. That will take a lot of economic and a lot of military strength because the opposition is tough.
There are also other dynamics though. Al Sadr is willing to come to the political table and work with the Iraqi government, but he won't do it unless the US is out of the picture. He's showing signs he can be reasonable. But then, there are still too many Iranian and Syrian militants in there, not loyal to Sadr, with different agendas, and we can't leave because they're still there. So Sadr's political agenda will have to wait for us to jet.
TheMalcolmConnection
01-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Speaking of Sunnis and Shiites, the reason they kill each other is so INSANE. I looked up the difference and I cannot believe people hate each other over something like that. It's almost like Baptists fighting Methodists.
Schneed10
01-26-2007, 10:26 AM
Speaking of Sunnis and Shiites, the reason they kill each other is so INSANE. I looked up the difference and I cannot believe people hate each other over something like that. It's almost like Baptists fighting Methodists.
Yeah it's nothing short of bigotry. It's completely retarded.
dmek25
01-26-2007, 10:28 AM
i don't think its as easy as suppressing the uprisings. these people are taught, from a very young age, who they are to hate, and how to take care of it( by killing) until you can change an entire philosophy of life's beliefs, the cycle will never end
I'm not. I pay my taxes like everyone else, and I'll be damned if someone is going to tell me whether I have to serve or not. It's a beautiful thing having a voluntary military.
I don't agree with this war, so therefore I wouldn't go.
If this was Afghanistan where we are defending ourselves from a regime that attacked us, I'd be glad to be drafted, even though war isn't exactly my favorite thing to be doing with my life.
I'm with you, there's no way I'm putting my life on the line for someone else's pointless cause. I'd gladly move out of the country if it came down to that.
TheMalcolmConnection
01-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Yup, because if that were to happen, it wouldn't be my country anymore anyway. At least not the country I grew up loving.
See you in Canada TMC, maybe we could open up one of those "coffee shops", wink-wink. ;)
TheMalcolmConnection
01-26-2007, 10:39 AM
Canada?! I'm heading to Mehico!
Coffee shop sounds good as long as I'm in charge of the "massage parlor" in the back.
Schneed10
01-26-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm with you, there's no way I'm putting my life on the line for someone else's pointless cause. I'd gladly move out of the country if it came down to that.
You'd be safe, you're 34. They'd deem you too old. But I know what you're getting at, with the principle of it and whatnot.
Again, I definitely realize I'm in the minority on the draft thing. I don't bother trying to argue for it because I know the majority is too overwhelmingly against it.
I remember back in 1991 with the Gulf war my friends and I were seriously talking of packing up and moving up north if they put a draft in place. We were just 18 at the time so we had no idea of how unlikely a draft really was, but either way we were pretty freaked out initially when the war started and there were some whispers of a draft.