An Inconvenient Truth

This discussion isn't going anywhere but lets be clear on one thing, creating and inventing are not the same. To perpetuate the idea that they are the same is a Definist fallacy and disingenuous.

I don't think he meant to claim credit for inventing the internet, but he should probably choose his words a little more carefully. Simple slip of the tongue....nothing more.

I don't think he meant to claim credit for inventing the internet, but he should probably choose his words a little more carefully. Simple slip of the tongue....nothing more.
i agree, but this depends on which way you choose to lean. alittle to the left, or alittle to the right

He made a slip of the tongue while doing some self promoting and gleefully got called on it by the opposing party.

Does it prove he is a liar? probably not - I mean really, does anyone really believe he would make such a ridiculous claim and expect everyone to belieive it? Does it show he has a slighty inflated sense of his role? maybe, who knows - he may honestly believe he was instrumental in the creation of the internet.

Is it politics as usual in this country? Absolutely - for both major parties.

I don't doubt that Al Gore is right about global warming, it's just that I care a lot more about the poor people in our country getting health insurance than I do about global warming.

If forcing companies to be greener costs them money, they're going to respond by either:

1) Cutting back on benefits
2) Charge the employees more for health insurance
3) Or just flat lay people off or hire fewer people

Our country has a lot more important things to worry about than global warming. Al Gore, do you seriously think I'm going to listen to your bitching and moaning about the environment when we have much more pressing economic challenges at hand? Get your effing priorities straight.

schneed i totally agree with you about the health care thing. but, there isnt a politician alive that is ready to tacke that fiasco. there is soo much money involved that it would be political suicide

I didn't read anyone here say the didn't believe in it.

Anyways there is a not so insignificant portion of people and scientists who don't just question the human cause theory of global warming but the idea of global warming in general.

I find it scary that something that seems so important is treated in such a political way when it needs to be treated in a scientific way first and foremost.I believe the earth is warming just not sure that it is man made.

I don't doubt that Al Gore is right about global warming, it's just that I care a lot more about the poor people in our country getting health insurance than I do about global warming.

If forcing companies to be greener costs them money, they're going to respond by either:

1) Cutting back on benefits
2) Charge the employees more for health insurance
3) Or just flat lay people off or hire fewer people

Our country has a lot more important things to worry about than global warming. Al Gore, do you seriously think I'm going to listen to your bitching and moaning about the environment when we have much more pressing economic challenges at hand? Get your effing priorities straight.
By what you said I guess that you believe that over 40,000,000 Americans cannot afford health care?

By what you said I guess that you believe that over 40,000,000 Americans cannot afford health care?

I suppose you are quoting the estimates that say 40 million people in our country are uninsured or underinsured.

Yes I do believe those numbers. If you want to argue them with me, be my guest, but I have to warn you you're stepping right into my wheelhouse. I'm a financial analyst for the biggest provider to uninsured/underinsured patients in Pennsylvania: Temple University Health System.

That was in the interests of full disclosure. Did you know that as of July 1 2007, there will be only 5 hospitals delivering babies within Philadelphia city limits? Obstetrics is such a financial loser that hospitals have closed the program down.

Since 2002, 9 hospitals within Philadelphia city limits have closed. No new ones have opened.

What's driving this? Underinsured patients don't reimburse hospitals; they have no money and no insurance, and consequently hospitals don't get paid. So in low-income areas, like the part of Philly I work in, hospitals are suffering financially and are forced to cut programs. The end result? Not only do these people not have the money for health care, they don't even have enough places nearby that can provide the care.

Let me get this straight, you think global warming is a big hoax but not all of it? That's a good brain teaser right there.

thats what i said. no need to explain it. we still get snow, rain, wind and shit. as long as i'm dead by the time the world is ****ed i could care less.

thats what i said. no need to explain it. we still get snow, rain, wind and shit. as long as i'm dead by the time the world is ****ed i could care less.

Shouldn't natural selection have taken care of you by now?