An Inconvenient Truth

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saden1
03-03-2007, 03:07 AM
thats what i said. no need to explain it. we still get snow, rain, wind and shit. as long as i'm dead by the time the world is ****ed i could care less.

I'm not holding my breath for an explanations. Your remark is self explanatory and lets just say it exposes your competence.

That Guy
03-03-2007, 04:36 AM
I suppose you are quoting the estimates that say 40 million people in our country are uninsured or underinsured.

Yes I do believe those numbers. If you want to argue them with me, be my guest, but I have to warn you you're stepping right into my wheelhouse. I'm a financial analyst for the biggest provider to uninsured/underinsured patients in Pennsylvania: Temple University Health System.

That was in the interests of full disclosure. Did you know that as of July 1 2007, there will be only 5 hospitals delivering babies within Philadelphia city limits? Obstetrics is such a financial loser that hospitals have closed the program down.

Since 2002, 9 hospitals within Philadelphia city limits have closed. No new ones have opened.

What's driving this? Underinsured patients don't reimburse hospitals; they have no money and no insurance, and consequently hospitals don't get paid. So in low-income areas, like the part of Philly I work in, hospitals are suffering financially and are forced to cut programs. The end result? Not only do these people not have the money for health care, they don't even have enough places nearby that can provide the care.


i do part time financial needs analysis, and from what i've personally seen, i have NO reason to doubt scheed or those numbers.

it sucks that those that can't afford basic health care can't even get preventive services, and it's short sighted. (ie, see the post's article on how a kid couldn't get a 80$ tooth extraction, needed 250,000$ worth of medical care (including emergency brain surgery) and still ended up dead. just because he had a cavity and the paperwork and willingness of practioners to deal with it was too much to ask.... for every case like that, 3124 other kids could also get tooth extractions when needed and the taxpayer still comes out ahead, as well as lower income families).

SkinEmAll
03-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Half of dockerys sb would still make him a rich man AND pay for alot of tooth extractions.....

I have said it before, NO pro sports player is worth the amount of money these guys are getting. Its really a sad situation.

Beemnseven
03-03-2007, 06:44 PM
Half of dockerys sb would still make him a rich man AND pay for alot of tooth extractions.....

I have said it before, NO pro sports player is worth the amount of money these guys are getting. Its really a sad situation.

According to free market economics, they're worth every penny.

SkinEmAll
03-04-2007, 12:46 AM
According to free market economics, they're worth every penny.

Yeah and we both know thats a bunch of horseshit. I would so be in favor of removing the salary cap as a whole but making a cap for players.

FRPLG
03-04-2007, 01:03 AM
Yeah and we both know thats a bunch of horseshit. I would so be in favor of removing the salary cap as a whole but making a cap for players.

What do you mean?

Beemnseven
03-04-2007, 10:35 AM
Yeah and we both know thats a bunch of horseshit.

No, it's the way it is. The fact of the matter is, pro athletes ARE worth more than most other professions. If they weren't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

diehardskin2982
03-04-2007, 11:02 AM
I think both issues of Global warming and healthcare could be resolved if we spent less money trying to fight someone elses civil war (Iraq)... Don't get me wrong I am all about supporting our troops but I think we can support them best by getting them out of that mess and back home. Our money focus is on shit that is abroad when it should be here. Health Insurance Companies need major regualation and reformation by the government. They are not properly serving the community.

SkinEmAll
03-04-2007, 12:09 PM
What do you mean?


Well something like a max amount a player can make based on years, ability, starter.... and so on. Remove the total team salary cap, and just cap per player.Say theres a max for the elite players of 15mil. for atleast a 3 year contract, with a sb not to exceed the max. younger or up and coming players have a lower max, but have the incentive to bust their butts to get to elite status pay, in due time. I know this is never going to happen and i know some of you will find alot of flaws with this.
Im not looking to get hammered with all the variables,
pros and cons. Its just insane the way the money increases each year.

FRPLG
03-04-2007, 12:14 PM
Well something like a max amount a player can make based on years, ability, starter.... and so on. Remove the total team salary cap, and just cap per player.Say theres a max for the elite players of 15mil. for atleast a 3 year contract, with a sb not to exceed the max. younger or up and coming players have a lower max, but have the incentive to bust their butts to get to elite status pay, in due time. I know this is never going to happen and i know some of you will find alot of flaws with this.
Im not looking to get hammered with all the variables,
pros and cons. Its just insane the way the money increases each year.

I think if you already know the flaws with this idea then I wonder how you could think it is a good idea, or would ever work.

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