artmonkforhallofamein07
04-09-2007, 11:15 AM
I think if we are going to trade for this guy we should give them a 5th rounder or next years 3rd.
Kris Jenkins?artmonkforhallofamein07 04-09-2007, 11:15 AM I think if we are going to trade for this guy we should give them a 5th rounder or next years 3rd. artmonkforhallofamein07 04-09-2007, 11:25 AM You know what screw this guy. He has stated he hates the Redskins and their FANS!!! freddyg12 04-09-2007, 11:31 AM Jenkins was a beast & might be again for a couple years, but something about him playing here doesn't gell. I would rather not see any free agents unless they're 2nd stringers at this point. We've addressed the secondary & LB corps in free agency, let's stick to the existing roster & the draft to work on the d line. dmek25 04-09-2007, 02:29 PM Jenkins will play will the money is the greenest. we don't need his attitude on the skins. he is in decline, anyway GTripp0012 04-09-2007, 04:25 PM Jenkins will play will the money is the greenest. we don't need his attitude on the skins. he is in decline, anywayI agree. We can get Okoye cheaper. GMScud 04-09-2007, 05:31 PM I don't think Jenkins is in decline. He has had two significant injuries (one shoulder, one ACL) but he is only 27 years old and b/c of injury has only actually played 4 seasons out of his 6 seasons in the league. That's good and bad. There is the possibility of him truly being injury prone, but that is also 32 less games of physical punishment on the rest of his body. We'd have to give him an extensive physical/workout, but he started all 16 games last year (he's started all 16 games in each of his 4 healthy seasons), and at 6-4, 335, he is a massive run-stuffer. I am very weary of trading draft picks for free agents, but I'll call this intriguing if we get the 14th overall and the 5th. Beemnseven 04-09-2007, 11:24 PM I agree. We can get Okoye cheaper. But if Jenkins gives us a viable upgrade, and I have no doubt that he would give us more than Joe Salave'a, then we could draft a defensive end, and our front four gets more improvement than we would have otherwise seen. GTripp0012 04-09-2007, 11:30 PM But if Jenkins gives us a viable upgrade, and I have no doubt that he would give us more than Joe Salave'a, then we could draft a defensive end, and our front four gets more improvement than we would have otherwise seen.Even if he provides an immediate upgrade to Saleve'a, he's still not what we really need on the DL. We have a squad full of adequate veterans already. What we need to get is some potentially dominant youth. Jenkins strikes me as overrated because his production has slipped in the years that he should have been hitting his prime. Those are the worst possible years to get injuries and can ruin an otherwise solid career. Jenkins isn't ever going to fufill the standard he set for himself in the first four years of his career and while that's hardly his fault at all, it does make him a classic case of an overrated DT. GTripp0012 04-09-2007, 11:33 PM I don't think Jenkins is in decline. He has had two significant injuries (one shoulder, one ACL) but he is only 27 years old and b/c of injury has only actually played 4 seasons out of his 6 seasons in the league. That's good and bad. There is the possibility of him truly being injury prone, but that is also 32 less games of physical punishment on the rest of his body. We'd have to give him an extensive physical/workout, but he started all 16 games last year (he's started all 16 games in each of his 4 healthy seasons), and at 6-4, 335, he is a massive run-stuffer. I am very weary of trading draft picks for free agents, but I'll call this intriguing if we get the 14th overall and the 5th.The key part here is that he got injured during the seasons that he should have been making the jump from monsterous undisciplined talent to unstoppable beast. These are not years he can have back, and due to all the practice time he lost, its not a jump he's ever going to make. What you have in Kris Jenkins now if he's totally healthy is an above league average player who could have been so much more. Fortunately for him, some team is going to pay him like what he could have been, and not like what he's going to be. That team won't be the Redskins. Beemnseven 04-09-2007, 11:45 PM Even if he provides an immediate upgrade to Saleve'a, he's still not what we really need on the DL. We have a squad full of adequate veterans already. What we need to get is some potentially dominant youth. Jenkins strikes me as overrated because his production has slipped in the years that he should have been hitting his prime. Those are the worst possible years to get injuries and can ruin an otherwise solid career. Jenkins isn't ever going to fufill the standard he set for himself in the first four years of his career and while that's hardly his fault at all, it does make him a classic case of an overrated DT. Or, he could have another year like Cornelius Griffin did in '04. After 4 seasons in the league, people in NY said he was done there too. We don't know. For the record, I'm on the fence with this. I just want improvement with the front four. If he's not on his last legs, and at 27 one would think he's got a fair amount of time left, it would allow us to kill two birds with one stone by drafting a defensive end, which, in my mind is the second most important need this team has to fill. I agree about the infusion of youth, but the coaches don't seem willing to allow youth on the football field except in very rare cases. It does seem like 'more of the same' by bringing in another team's rejects, but he can't be worse than the DTs we have now. If the front office made this move and only had to drop to #14, I could live with that. |
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