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Daseal
05-07-2007, 11:22 AM
The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.

RobH4413
05-07-2007, 11:26 AM
http://reallyrathergood.wordpress.com/files/2006/10/butters.jpg


Reminds me of our good friend butters. The south park bi curious episode. I'm all about educating your children in religion and faith, but sometimes the line between education and brainwashing is awfully thin.

Sammy Baugh Fan
05-07-2007, 12:22 PM
The problem with that, SBF, is every sect of Christianity says that about the others. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to compare the pentecostal to the more main stream sects of Christianity. However, it's never good to see fanaticism and someone who feels that they are 100% correct. It's definitely worth the watch.

I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

You may not believe and clearly many folks don't believe but the evidence I've seen in my small life trumps people opinions.

I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

peace and prayers guys!
mike
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Daseal
05-07-2007, 12:41 PM
SBF -- These people believe 100% that they are correct too and they do nothing but follow the bible. The bible is written in a way where it can be interpreted in multiple ways. All religions are fashioned in this way. That's how radical Muslims can 'justify' their actions just like fanatical Christians who go around blowing up abortion clinics and killing people 'justify' that.

If you want to get into semantics, any organized religion falls into the label of a cult.

As you know, I'm not a religious guy. I basically feel that if there is an afterlife, as long as you're a genuinely good person, you have no problems. I seriously doubt someone will be turned down from a life of paradise because of the fact that they eat pork. Just my opinion.

WillH
05-07-2007, 12:56 PM
In my opinion the Bible is a book that isn't to be taken as a book of laws to be forced on people, but rather a book of moral stories to live by. It's not 100% right in anything. I think SBF is right on the money... There is no need to beat any religion into anyone.

Jesus himself said that the pharisees and Jewish leaders at the time were taking tradition way to intensely. They put all this energy into fasting, praying, observing, etc. and missed out on what religion should be.

I think a great number of Christian people/societies today still are misinterpreting Jesus' message and putting too much emphasis on a church structure and tradition, and not enough on spirituality.

The Bible is probably such a victim of corruption because of the very way it was written. It was meant to be interpreted many different ways to different people, and that's exactly what happened.

People are now taking it in a way that doesn't bring out the greater good. They're using it for power, money, greed, etc.. It's not right and things like Jesus camp just will frustrate people and turn them away from what is a very inspiring and complex religion.

In my opinion, the bible was written by humans, but inspired by the good. Call this good "God" or whatever you want, but I think if there is an objective Good, the bible certainly contains a lot of it. Many people miss out on a lot of the philosophical benefits of the Bible, because it's usually forced on them, or promoted by bad organizations.

One book that was written off as heresy is the Gospel of Thomas. While it's not biblical cannon, I think it's an inspiring read that really gets down to the basics of Christianity. It's relatively short, but I think it holds true to Jesus' ideals, and parallels a lot of his philosophy. It's not a bad read at all.

A Translation of the Gospel of Thomas (http://www.misericordia.edu/users/davies/thomas/Trans.htm)

Edit: This is actually RobH4413.. I'm on my cousins computer and didn't log in. I suck.

mredskins
05-07-2007, 01:06 PM
I have no problem saying I am 100% right about believing in Jesus and the Holy Bible. There is no gray area and other way to Heaven but by Jesus. God provided us with His Word and that is the Holy Bible. If you or anyone believes different I believe you and they would be 100% wrong.

Jesus Himself said in John 14:6


You may not believe and clearly many folks don't believe but the evidence I've seen in my small life trumps people opinions.

I'm not wrong to say I am 100% right. I'm a faithful and humble follower of Jesus the Christ.

I never argue about my religion or try to beat people in the head with Jesus. Never works and Jesus gets bruised. I just believe and share my faith and tesitmony.

Like I said above those folks are not teaching what is taught in the Bible.

peace and prayers guys!
mike
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By saying that someone is 100% wrong for not beleiving the way you do is beating us with your ideas. It is a aggresive statement.

Sammy Baugh Fan
05-07-2007, 01:17 PM
If you said the earth was flat and I said it was round and you are 100% wrong.
Is that an aggressive statement?

If you are sinking in the water and I tell you you will 100% die if you don't axcept a rescue.
Is that an aggressive statement?

I say not but I didn't say it of course to be aggressive.
peace and prayers to you

mike

Beemnseven
05-07-2007, 01:44 PM
SBF, what would you say about all of the bible verses and other gospels that were omitted by Constantine and the Council of Nicaea? You understand that there was a bit of 'picking and choosing' with God's Word by human beings, right?

TheMalcolmConnection
05-07-2007, 01:54 PM
Guys, we're seeing this starting to take a disturbing turn.

Just remember to keep things civil as we have in the past and we'll be all good.

mredskins
05-07-2007, 02:04 PM
When in public places don't discuss politics or religon. With that in mind I am out of this conversation.

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