#56fanatic
05-18-2007, 03:51 PM
Everyone keeps saying lets get this lets get that guy, most are not better than carter last year. Alex Brown, that everyone keeps asking for had only 7 sacks. Carter is also not undersized. DE on the weak side are smaller fast rushers. The Redskins only forced 19 sacks, which I am sure made it even harder for Carter to get to the QB. The problem we had was that Holdman sucked. If we had Lavar last year our run defense would have been much better.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Schneed10
05-18-2007, 03:56 PM
Yeah, lot of good Lavar would have done us while sitting on the bench with a torn achilles.
skinsguy
05-18-2007, 04:15 PM
Everyone keeps saying lets get this lets get that guy, most are not better than Carter last year. Alex Brown, that everyone keeps asking for, had only 7 sacks. Carter is also not undersized. DE on the weak side are smaller fast rushers. The Redskins only forced 19 sacks, which I am sure made it even harder for Carter to get to the QB. The problem we had was that Holdman sucked. If we had Lavar last year our run defense would have been much better.
How would have Lavar helped us? He would've been on injured reserve for the whole season.
#56fanatic
05-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Yeah, lot of good Lavar would have done us while sitting on the bench with a torn achilles.
I dont think LaVar would have made a bit of difference on our team last year. One LB spot was a really small portion of our problem.
FRPLG
05-18-2007, 04:56 PM
Other than Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Chris Samuels, Chris Cooley, Sean Taylor, and maybe Marcus Washington there isn't a single player on the Redskins team that would take over at least 10 players at that position.
This is a dumb assertion because the top 10 is not even half. Try the top 16.:
QB-Campbell: no
HB-Portis: yes
FB-Sellers: yes (name me 16 better fullbacks)
WR1-Moss: yes
WR2-?: no
TE-Cooley: yes
LT-Samuels- yes
LG-?: no
C-Rabach: no
RG-Thomas: yes
RT-Jansen: not sure...we'll say no
CB1-Springs: yes(name me 16 better CBs)
CB2-Rogers: no
S-Taylor: yes
S-Landry: no(???)
RE-Carter: no
DT-Golston: no
DT-Griffin: yes(name me 16 better DTs when healthy)
LE-Daniels: no
OLB-Washington: yes
MLB-Fletcher: yes
OLB-McCintosh: no
By my count that is 11. Now some of them are obvious and some aren't(Griffin,Spirngs, Sellers) but on talent alone they are certainly better than half of the comparables. The question is health.
As to talent anyways...we didn't have much "talent" when our defense was ranked 3rd so maybe "talent" doesn't mean quite as much as he thinks.
He has some solid stuff but I think he is a little too negative for my liking.
SmootSmack
05-18-2007, 05:01 PM
This is a dumb assertion because the top 10 is not even half. Try the top 16.:
QB-Campbell: no
HB-Portis: yes
FB-Sellers: yes (name me 16 better fullbacks)
WR1-Moss: yes
WR2-?: no
TE-Cooley: yes
LT-Samuels- yes
LG-?: no
C-Rabach: no
RG-Thomas: yes
RT-Jansen: not sure...we'll say no
CB1-Springs: yes(name me 16 better CBs)
CB2-Rogers: no
S-Taylor: yes
S-Landry: no(???)
RE-Carter: no
DT-Golston: no
DT-Griffin: yes(name me 16 better DTs when healthy)
LE-Daniels: no
OLB-Washington: yes
MLB-Fletcher: yes
OLB-McCintosh: no
By my count that is 11. Now some of them are obvious and some aren't(Griffin,Spirngs, Sellers) but on talent alone they are certainly better than half of the comparables. The question is health.
As to talent anyways...we didn't have much "talent" when our defense was ranked 3rd so maybe "talent" doesn't mean quite as much as he thinks.
He has some solid stuff but I think he is a little too negative for my liking.
But even top 16 wouldn't be half in many cases. Take CB for example. Each team starts 2, so half would be 32 (not 16)
FRPLG
05-18-2007, 07:07 PM
But even top 16 wouldn't be half in many cases. Take CB for example. Each team starts 2, so half would be 32 (not 16)
good point.
Springs and Griffin are undeniably in the top 32 at their positions.
Plus what it comes down to, like Grills showed in 04 and 05 is using the talent you have properly. If you tookmthe best at every position in the league and put them on the field using a bad scheme they'd get beat. Scheme and gameplan is as important as talent in today's NFL.
Look at it this way. Talent is the tool and scheme is the handyman. Just because the handyman has the right tool doesn't mean he knows how to use it effectively. What remains to be seen is whether Grills can use the talent we have better than he did last year.
4mrusmc
05-18-2007, 08:04 PM
Until we prove that we can win on a consistent basis, then we'll keep seeing more articles like this.
My point exactly!
skinsfan_nn
05-18-2007, 09:05 PM
Simple.....NO. We are way above average, just wait and see!
EARTHQUAKE2689
05-18-2007, 09:46 PM
We'll find out in September. Until then that article is just one person's opinion.
yeah ur right