Portis apparently is not a dog lover

WTF.....I was at the Saturday night Lions V. Christians game. I grew up with it. Sooo, what's the big deal?
Pity the Christians.....Lions always get their ass!

The real issue is that we don't (unless more has come out that I am unaware of) have any connection between Vick and the dog fighting. There are rumors of a video, but so far as I know we haven't seen it or know if it really exists. Vick has not been convicted of anything, if he is indicted it is probably because the prosecutor wants publicity. Everyone is just jumping on Vick because he is a public figure and has done some things to draw the ire of some people (i.e. flipping the bird), but nothing illegal (no drugs were ever found in the 'water bottle'). I THINK the point Clinton was making was that it is ridiculous to indict someone for something that we don't even know that they were involved in.

Clinton being Clinton took it a bit farther. A foolish thing to say? Yes. Was Clinton wrong in what he said? Certainly. Why it matter or why everyone now wants to jump on CP? I have no idea.

Second, growing up in an area where you witness a particular illegal activity being prevalent does not make the illegal activity any less illegal or the behavior any less disgusting. By your reasoning, it would be appropriate to support a white supremacist's actions because you grew up in an area where everyone was a member of the kkk. Or, it would be appropriate to condone Michael Irvin's use of crack/cocaine because where you grew up there was a crack whore on every corner. After all, shouldn't we just turn a blind eye to criminals and "mind our own business?" The position is preposterous.

Whether you want to believe it or not, the majority of people that grow up in areas where racism is an accepted norm are generally racist themselves or have a much higher tolerance for it than most people. And poor or unethical treatment of human beings is not even close to the same thing as poor treatment of pit bulls, no matter how much some of you try to relate the two.

The Michael Irvin issue is a completely different ballpark. The only people effected by his cocaine use is himself and his family. Why would I, or anyone else have anything to say about it?

Anyway, I agree with dmek. Why do Clinton Portis' social opinions matter? He's not an elected official or a law enforcement officer. He's a damn football player. His opinions don't mean dick. And I'm still not convinced the original issue isn't being blown out of proportion more than normal because Michael Vick is the culpret.

Anyway, I agree with dmek. Why do Clinton Portis' social opinions matter? He's not an elected official or a law enforcement officer. He's a damn football player. And I'm still not convinced the original issue isn't being blown out of proportion more than normal because Michael Vick is the culpret.

Exactly.

Portis did a STUPID thing. backing Vick. Who said you have to be a genius to be a good back?

First of all, the issue is not that Portis chose not to bash Vick........he actually came to his defense and said that even if he was engaged in this illegal felonious activity, he doesn't see it as a big deal and people should mind their own business.

Second, growing up in an area where you witness a particular illegal activity being prevalent does not make the illegal activity any less illegal or the behavior any less disgusting. By your reasoning, it would be appropriate to support a white supremacist's actions because you grew up in an area where everyone was a member of the kkk. Or, it would be appropriate to condone Michael Irvin's use of crack/cocaine because where you grew up there was a crack whore on every corner. After all, shouldn't we just turn a blind eye to criminals and "mind our own business?" The position is preposterous.

Third, regarding the question of what should he say?: Nothing, would be a good start. "No comment" comes to mind. "I'm reserving judgment" would be ok with me. Pretty much anything except for, "big deal, so someone is treating animals with inhuman (in every sense of that word) and unadulterated cruelty......so what if it's a felony......so some dogs are being tortured and killed.........so what if the community is being put at risk........mind your own business and let's let the criminals in our society do what they want." Plain and simple, Portis's statements were stupid and ill-advised.


Very well put PSUSkinsFan, could not have been expressed any better. Who cares? There are many, many people who care, and they also consider it their business when a felony is being committed. Where one grew up is a poor excuse to use as justification for being able to understand why one would be associated with such behavior. To speak of Michael Vick in any sentence with the words "role model" is disgusting within itself.

I love animals especially dogs. Is dog fighting really that bad? Isnt that why those types of dogs were breed for in the first place. Other then being illegal there is nothing really wrong with it. Don’t get me wrong, braking the law is bad but who hanst speed before or driven their car with a expired drivers license or safety inspection – even if just to get to the DMV to renew it.

I love animals especially dogs. Is dog fighting really that bad? Isnt that why those types of dogs were breed for in the first place. Other then being illegal there is nothing really wrong with it. Don’t get me wrong, braking the law is bad but who hanst speed before or driven their car with a expired drivers license or safety inspection – even if just to get to the DMV to renew it.


yes it is that bad the way they do it if you loved dogs you would understand that

I love animals especially dogs. Is dog fighting really that bad? Isnt that why those types of dogs were breed for in the first place. Other then being illegal there is nothing really wrong with it. Don’t get me wrong, braking the law is bad but who hanst speed before or driven their car with a expired drivers license or safety inspection – even if just to get to the DMV to renew it.

These dogs aren't putting on tiny boxing gloves aqnd sparring for a few rounds, they're forcing them to kill one another.
That's the same as driving 5 miles over the speed limit to you?

These digs aren't putting on tiny boxing gloves aqnd sparring for a few rounds, they're forcing them to kill one another.
That's the same as driving 5 miles over the speed limit to you?

It's closer than you'd think. Around 35% of auto accident fatalities are caused by driving over the speed limit, which means an average of 14,000 people a year are killed because they, or the other driver was speeding. So my question to the people that are pretending this is only an issue of legality; what's worse? A couple of pit bulls fighting, or you putting your own life, and potentially the lives of a random soccer mom with three kids in the car at risk by speeding?

EDIT: I guess if you're a dog lover, I can understand your gripe with the dog fighting issue, but I don't buy the argument of the people claiming this is strictly a cut and dry legal issue.