lebron, WOW

smootsmack, i just thought with the wizards connection you would have some good things to say about Hughes. i am also one not to follow the hype, usually. but with Lebrons ability, personality, and just the way he handles himself, I'm a fan
Do you mean the way he handles himself on the court? That's probably the biggest reason that I can't stand him.

If he misses a shot with a defender within 5' of him he'll bitch at the ref the whole way down the court saying that he was fouled. If me makes a shot and a defender is within 5' of him he'll bitch at the ref the whole way down the court saying that he was fouled.
God forbid he actually gets called for travelling (which he does a lot), because the few times that he has been called for it he reacts like his mom just took the keys to his Ferrari from him.
On numerous occasions I've seen him hold the ball while arguing with the refs about a call; he's even gone so far as to walk way from them with the ball still in his hands. If a normal player pulled something like that they'd get T'd up in a hot second but since the league already anointed him their most important player nothing ever seems to happen to him.

I understand that the NBA has been giving preferential treatment to its superstars for years but I really feel like (up until this season) he hasn't really done anything to deserve that.

Well, for one thing what about when LeBron does get fouled and there's no call? Such as just the other day when Rip was all over him.

I think the whole notion that he complains all the time is way overblown. Yes he argues calls, who doesn't. But I don't think he's much worse than anyone else. But because of who he is, a big deal is made out of it. When Daniel Gibson complains about a call, does anyone care?

Do you guys like anybody in the NBA?

Is there a consensus "good guy" that everyone generally likes?

You're right, everyone does argue calls. I think it's funny that they had the crack down on the histrionics at the beginning of the season but then stopped around Christmas.
Lebron just seems to piss me off more than most players when he does it because I feel like he gets away with much more than someone like Gibson would because of who he is, or rather who he's supposed to become.
Everytime I see him walk down the court with his arms stretched out, the ball in one hand, and his jaw half way to the floor because he was called for a walk I pray that the ref will actually grow some balls and T him up, but it never happens. You can't show up the refs like that!
When he pulls that crap it looks like he's doing a Harlem Globetrotters routine or something. I can't wait for the day when Dick Bravetta tries to chase after him but ends up falling because Drew Gooden secretly tied his shoe laces together while Lebron had him distracted.

Ok, new subject. Scroll down to #1 in this Bill Simmons' article (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/blog/index?name=simmons&entryDate=20070531) for some good Lebron analysis.

Well, for one thing what about when LeBron does get fouled and there's no call? Such as just the other day when Rip was all over him. To be honest I didn't see the game. In fact, I've barely watched any of this round and I really doubt I'll watch the Finals.
I do understand that you're going to get pissed and complain if you're legitimately getting fouled up and down the court and the refs aren't calling it. I just hate it when that seems to turn into a player's default excuse for every shot that he misses.

Do you guys like anybody in the NBA?

Is there a consensus "good guy" that everyone generally likes?

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

I've always liked Duncan too, he's gotta be considered one of the best big men in the history of the game.

That's a good question.

I like Tim Duncan a lot, but he's not exciting or flashy enough for some, and considered "soft" to others.

I tell you what, Duncan get's honorable mention, only to King James, when it come to whining about fouls and calls. Watch him during the next series. Every other call he's going to think he was fouled.

I tell you what, Duncan get's honorable mention, only to King James, when it come to whining about fouls and calls. Watch him during the next series. Every other call he's going to think he was fouled.

LOL that didn't take long before someone cut down Duncan.

So again, is there a guy out there in the NBA that most people like?

How about Nash?

LOL that didn't take long before someone cut down Duncan.

So again, is there a guy out there in the NBA that most people like?

How about Nash?

Steve Nash get's my "most likable" vote. He keeps his mouth shut, he's not a crybaby, he's an intense competitor..and he's a great, great ball player.